Abiogenic Oil

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Buffalo Roam, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Took a while to translate the elements listed, but Abiogenic is the conclusion.

    Not my opinion, but that of some well educated people, with a whole lot of PHd and other letters behind their names.


     
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  3. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Well below the oil window and then some.
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Transocean Inc. (NYSE:RIG) today announced that the Transocean jackup GSF Rig 127 set a world record for the longest extended-reach well ever drilled at 40,320 feet (12,289 meters) MD (measured depth) with a 35,770-foot (10,902-meter) horizontal section. The well was drilled offshore Qatar in 36 days and incident-free. The new record of 7.6 miles is also the first well in the history of offshore drilling that exceeds 40,000 feet (12,191 meters). The well surpasses by approximately 2,000 feet the prior extended-reach record of 38,322 feet (11,680 meters) MD set by another drilling contractor with a land rig drilling at Sakhalin Island earlier this year.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    If your assumption is that deep oil disproves the biogenic theory, I must doubt that idea. Any kind of oil would degrade with heat, or is there something special about this oil? Some places of the world aren't as hot at similar depths. Biogenic sources could be found at great depths too, it's just a matter of where the sediments end up in the crust.
     
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  8. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure of the point?
     
  9. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The temperatures at those depth's, 7 miles, are 300 °C (570 °F), and Sakhalin is producing 250,000 bbld/ 34,000 metric tons, and I don't care where your are in the world at 7 mile TVD it's hot, well above the cracking temperature of crude.


     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So why doesn't it crack?
     
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    This thread should be under Pseudoscience...
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The point is that peek oil is a myth, and that there is no oil window, that oil comes from far below the depths of biogenic material.

    The deepest know fossil came from a bore hole that was only 2.4 km deep, 1.4 miles, about 7,000 ft.
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not even advocates of abiogenic oil say that, BR. They say that methane and carbon-rich gasses form oil after they rise to a level where oil can form and is not disintegrated.
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    You tell me, all I know is that, Sakhalin-1, is delivering oil from 37,016 ft, and that the temperature at those depths are in the 300 °C (570 °F) range, far beyond the variables that you claim would make a difference.

    Sakhalin isn't the only producer, so you tell me what does that say about were oil comes from? and how it is generated?
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    So now you want to use Abiogenic information?

    Post your citation, all I know is that wells with TVD in the 30,000 ft. range are producing oil, and at no small amount, but in the hundreds of thousands of barrels range.

    And that more wells are being discovered in those same ranges off Brazil, Vietnam, The Gulf Coast, Eastern Russia, and over a hundred other sight that I have found reported in the E&P reports.

    Hard fact, happening in the fields and oceans today, not in a class room at some University.

    Reality, in the dirt, so explain, how you can keep denying what is fact, that oil is being produced from depth far beyond the oil window, and from depth where no biogenic matter could survive other than as fossilized rock, if even then.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I think there is evidence of abiotic oil, I just think the biotic sources are where most if not all of the big reserves come from. Finding oil at that depth does not falsify the biotic oil theory, which doesn't depend on the oil "window" as a main tenet. There is water coming from deep sea vents hot enough to melt steel, and it doesn't boil, due to the pressure.
     
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    As has been demonstrated over and over you have no idea what you are talking about. What temperature would "degrade" oil?
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on the pressure.
     
  20. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    When tectonic plates collide, one slips over the top and the other is pushed down. The one on the top ends up with mountains that are five or six miles tall. So presumably the one on the bottom could just as easily be five or six miles deep. If the one on the bottom contains organic material, then you're going to end up with organic material five or six miles down.

    But it's fascinating to wonder whether this may actually be organic matter that was created without a biological process. If we can figure out how it happened, it will be a great boost to unlocking the secret of abiogenesis.

    The universe started out as a point-mass of inorganic matter. Twelve billion years later there is life on at least one planet. Ergo, life arose through abiogenesis. We're just trying to figure out how. This may help.
     
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    You don't know what the pressure is.
     
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  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's right, I don't know what the pressure is at the depth we are talking about. Different components break down at different temperatures. In oil refining, they use a temperature of 600C to get things going. At greature pressures, you can heat it higher than that without boiling.
     

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