Hi, I'm an italian researcher, my nick is OLDGREY, I like a lot your site, so I would like to propose you my new article on http://www.spazioufo.com about some....strangers found during Apollo 13 mission.
The article is written in italian but I hope you like it, the images that I've processed are really nice :cool:


http://www.spazioufo.com/apollo13.asp

The "moon pigeons"? They are bits of the craft that tore off in the explosion, and some may be ejected liquid like urine and coolant, explaining the brightness (and for urine, the colour. All gold-yellow. Not having enough to drink). They remained travelling at the same speed, in the same direction of course, so they appear to be following the vehicle.

They were seen on many other missions, not just Apollo 13

Hey OLD GREY and welcome.....
tell me. whatis the Italian term for 'pathological skeptic'....ont mean te actual translation of those english terms but, do you have an Italian word(s) for an ingrained skeptic...? and how doesit translate to english.......?

Well, excuse me for not believing in UFOs on the sole basis of a small, blurred picture of a frozen piece of piss.

CH strikes again

the astronauts could not take a star sighting for all the debris from the explosion

i couldn't read the article because i can't read italian
but please describe what your findings are
i am sure that most if not all have a logical explaination

Well, excuse me for not believing in UFOs on the sole basis of a small, blurred picture of a frozen piece of piss.

Small blurred and frozen sums up the uberdebunker's world view pretty well.

Small blurred and frozen sums up the uberdebunker's world view pretty well.
So for you, this:
http://www.spazioufo.com/immagininews/apollo131.jpg
Is enough data for you to conclude that aliens exist?

So for you, this:
http://www.spazioufo.com/immagininews/apollo131.jpg
Is enough data for you to conclude that aliens exist?

Piss off! No. Frozen piss off! :D ;)

I'm glad you agree.

if you display that picture and step back from your computer about 6 feet it appears to be a gif image that has been magnified till it became lossy

so my opinion is it's a fake.

hahah...bet 'they' is having a riight laugh, like 'look at them with their blurry SUUUUPER tech (said in really sarcastic alien tone) squintin their eyes tryin to figure it out...heheheheh'')

echh, people discussing frozen space piss above one of the most boring places in the Solar system..
to what the sciworld has come to... *shakes head*

ok, ok we have ehm........different point of view, but let me say one thing...
at the beginning of the study of the photo I've said the same thing you tell me now. But I started to wonder about this image that is not a fake. Surely! it's not a fake I'm not a "fake-maker" ok? the image is an original NASA photo of the Apollo 13 mission. (AS13-62-8905) :eek: go to find this image..........
I's obvious that the image I've processed is an image at the limits, but it would be useful to understand what is that thing, so if you don't have an answer to this, you should not refuse that it coul be an OVNI or something else....
but I think that due to your know-how you know exactly what is that, and if so, please tell me about ;)

ps: sorry but I don't speak english very well, so I hope to have written right. :D

What is it you suggest this image is of and why? What evidence do you have to think its anything extraordinary?

but I think that due to your know-how you know exactly what is that, and if so, please tell me about ;)

ps: sorry but I don't speak english very well, so I hope to have written right. :D
what it is exactly?
well it exactly is a photo that is so far out of focus you can't tell what it is

there is no references in the photo
this object can be microns across or light years

i agree with skin walker
what do YOU think it is
and provide some reasoning for thinking it

Of course it's not a fake.

Hey, issa something yellow, cuda be a piece a piss n it cuda be a piece a pizza, hey who can tell? But issa no big deal gabicci?

I don't think the guy is crazy to ask what is in this photo.
All one has to do is go here; http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?62

That's the image page, which contains links too not only that image - but the images taken before and after it, which allow us to better see what they were trying to photograph. Furthermore, due to the images low quality you can see the "blocks" from the over-zooming, which ruins the image in terms of using them for study. To be honest, I'm still not sure what they were photographing - but I think it might just be an underexposed frame.

What is this one?
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/62/8965.jpg

In that series of photos there are some rather confusing shots, that don't really look right. Here's another.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/62/8973.jpg

:confused: I can't make any of those out definately.. Could anyone venture a (simplistic) guess as to what the hell these are? They might just be rather ordinary images, but show in low light which make them look strange.

:m:

What is this one?
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/62/8965.jpg

this is easy to explain
reflections from the inside of the glass

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/62/8973.jpg


likewise this one
this could be sunlight striking a part of the glass that has been struck by a micro meteoroid

Or it could be frost on the glass. A micrometeoroid would have been noticed, I think.

i don't think i understand
a micrometeoroid could be no bigger than a grain of sand

looks like a gas station at night :p

i don't think i understand
a micrometeoroid could be no bigger than a grain of sand
Which is probably travelling at speeds in excess of 20,000 mph. Do the math.

your explaination CH makes more sense
we must remember that these are apollo 13 photos
if this photo was taken after the craft was powered down then it could very well be frost

I wish these photos would be cataloged, with captions (descriptions) as too what they were of. Many of them are almost imposible to make anything out of for sure. I aint saying these are anything grand, just that even if we hypothesize what their off we can't really tell for sure. I might try the Lunar Surface Journal for a record of when and where they took these images.. what was going on during that time - that should tell us more. :m:

i don't think nasa would release any photo with a bonafide ufo in it

Hi guys! I'm back.
I've read your posts and I found them really interesting.
But let me say one thing, that "anomaly" or "ovni" (I think is more correct to talk about ovni!) was not the only one found during the Apollo 13 mission.

photo n. AS 13-61-8830
http://www.spazioufo.com/Public/data/OLDGREY/2006111172514_AS%2013-61-8830.jpg

this is the zoom of the anomaly
http://www.spazioufo.com/Public/data/OLDGREY/2006111172621_AS%2013-61-8830_zoomedanomaly.jpg

in the next (AS 13-61-8831) and in the previous photo (AS 13-61-8829) the anomaly is not present.
here the photo n. AS 13-61-8829
http://www.spazioufo.com/Public/data/OLDGREY/2006111172814_APOLLO%2013%20AS%2013-61-8829.jpg

Source: Lunar Planetary Institute
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?61

A reflection from the cockpit instrumentation?

Hi guys! I'm back.
I've read your posts and I found them really interesting.
But let me say one thing, that "anomaly" or "ovni" (I think is more correct to talk about ovni!) was not the only one found during the Apollo 13 mission.

photo n. AS 13-61-8830
http://www.spazioufo.com/Public/data/OLDGREY/2006111172514_AS%2013-61-8830.jpg

in the next (AS 13-61-8831) and in the previous photo (AS 13-61-8829) the anomaly is not present.
here the photo n. AS 13-61-8829
http://www.spazioufo.com/Public/data/OLDGREY/2006111172814_APOLLO%2013%20AS%2013-61-8829.jpg

Source: Lunar Planetary Institute
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?61
i do believe those are reflections. the second one looks a lot like the gimbal meter (rotation measurement in the cockpit). the crescent-shaped object in the background looks like the service module, which is what they were trying to take pictures of at this point. this is when they had detatched the command module from the service module right before they made the descent to earth. they took pictures to try to assess the damage done.

What is this one?
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/62/8965.jpg

this one is a picture of the outside of the service module, the part that ruptured, spraying various metal objects, condensed gas, and other things into space which stayed with the craft most of the trip.

the most obvious and simple explanation for all of these 'anomalies' is that they are pieces of the broken craft that were strewn about space. Apollo 13 left a lot of debris up there.

A reflection from the cockpit instrumentation?
that's my guess too

Ok guys, I could accept your answer but.....
but I think that before talking about a reflection we would better know how were the "buttons" of the apollo 13!
Look at this one please:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS13/61/8828.jpg
How they can be reflections of the instruments of the apollo 13?
Why so different if it is the same "button".......or the "buttons" were flying?! :D and wa free to decide to apperar like two / three circles before enjoying together and appear like a kind of OVNI.
Why it was visible only in these moments? why?
Why the Astonaut wa shooting photos on that position?.....I suppose because there was something interesting outside, dont you?

Ok guys, I could accept your answer but.....
but I think that before talking about a reflection we would better know how were the "buttons" of the apollo 13!

Why so different if it is the same "button".......or the "buttons" were flying?! :D and wa free to decide to apperar like two / three circles before enjoying together and appear like a kind of OVNI.
Why it was visible only in these moments? why?
Why the Astonaut wa shooting photos on that position?.....I suppose because there was something interesting outside, dont you?
they had lights on many things; the camera was moving around in zero g, and i'm sure you know that movement causes reflections to be moved around and to become smaller or bigger. perhaps the reflection was from the camera itself. obviously, if you move it to a certain position, they will disappear altogether.

besides, i've already answered your last question; the astronauts were taking pictures of the service module--there was an actual recorded conversation during the time they took these exact pictures and they are talking about the outside of the module. that whitish crescent-shaped lump is the module.

i would really think if they had seen anything like what you might think is there, then it would have been a big story that couldn't have been covered up. and the government would not have released those photos if it was unexplained. the simple explanation is that they are reflections and that the astronauts are taking pictures of the ruptured service module.

Once my father saw a flying saucer which was wider than the road it was above. (70 feet in the air) It was definitely made of metal, and it was MADE by intelligence. Human intelligence.

that whitish crescent-shaped lump is the module.

which seems to be the best explaination.
the two "objects" to either side are out of focus which seems to suggest that they are indeed reflections from the lem windows

Nice site.
Congrats.