Is it possible and how is it possible?

the majority of people needs a common goal
possible ?sure

Jeez I hope not... how boring.

Originally posted by shadows
Is it possible and how is it possible?

Currently - not possible.

Later.. it's possible that it'll be possible. The Marquis may have a point though. First, everyone has to want it. Is that possible?

Not currently.

Jeez I hope not... how boring.


Only a pseudo-intellectual wannabe-voltaire from the slums of disneyland would bring in the element of entertainment and pleasurable asthetics into the highly moral argument of a united world .

I have to go with wes :

1)currently not possible in any way
2)possible that the possibility in the future will accur (almost by definition)

and want to add :
1)probability will lie in the fields of economy and politics instead of fields like psychology or intellegence (who according to me are quite heavily related) .

such shortcoming ammount also in the lack of probability when it comes to religion or culture .

Is it possible and how is it possible?

One of the first steps would be to get rid of all forms of religion. Most peoples belief in their gods undermine their rationality.

no...it's their irrationality that undermines their belief.:m:

Originally posted by shadows
Is it possible and how is it possible?

yes it's quite possible...PNAC will/are making sure of that.
It will be a new American century, and a new American world...woooohoooo.:bugeye:

For course it's not possible, racial tensions, i.e the Chinese would control everything with of India on the side. The small minority groups would be ignored. Ideologicly too many different theories, I mean who's theory would there be to control one planet? Religion... enough said. The only thing that could have ever brought the world to together as one would have been communism.

I mean who's theory would there be to control one planet?

..fear of an islamic planet???!;)

Originally posted by bhudmaash
no...it's their irrationality that undermines their belief.:m:

Which sheds light on the ability of the general populous to be rational.

Hell, the people on this site are practically a "cream of the crop" sampling regarding potential for "rationality" and well, I believe that they make my case for me. There is an enormous amount if irrational bullshit from a bunch of supposedly rational people.

It would be worthy to note at this point however.. that "rationality" is obviously a subjective measure. This is both valid in the sense that "people have such different experiences in life that rationality is different based on the needs, etc. established from their perspective" and "I am unable to fathom the nature of rationality and I have not basis by which to call myself rational, but I do anyway". On the one hand, circumstance leads to different needs and thusly different rational interpretations of situational and percieved needs, on the other, people are stupid but assume they are not. Either way, it's a deal breaker for "world peace". Hell with these kind of problems there's a long LONG way to go before any kind of "peace" can be sustained. Frankly I'm amazed that things operate as smoothly as they do. Brute force is far more effective than I would hypothesize (since the problem seems SO big, the amount of brute force applied to keep it in balance is very large, however I guess it's the fact that we have TV and video games that offsets the bulk of it)

I'm loathed to admit it...but I agree:m:

Anyways why would you want a uni-governmental world

...I'm not aware that I said that I did.

Anyways why would you want a uni-governmental world

Sorry "why would anyone"...

I wouldn't, no.

I think the original poster was speaking more in a sort of "we are the world" group hug type of "oneness" all smiles and stuff;)

I just dont think we have developed the right governmental system to manage the whole world. Somebody needs to run a whole lot of in depth simulations and studies of past systems to try to find one.

Im not even sure you would want such a world at all. It would most likly have to be imposed by force and you know how much that would suck.

It would also be akin to putting all your eggs in one basket. If a world government collapsed there would be chaos and nobody left to pick up the pieces. It would be a massive dark age and a fall back to warlords and the like.

As long as you have morons like Europe (in general) on the planet, there wouldn't be one world. Nor would I want one...

Clockwood,
I'm not sure the problem is a lack of a good enough system (though, you're right in my opinion, in saying that we don't yet have a workable system) - I think the problem is that despite the massive increase in basic education that the average human receives, that we have a lot of ground to cover before any form of government is going to work on a global scale.

Jerrek,
A post that proves my point regarding education...

Originally posted by EI_Sparks
Jerrek,
A post that proves my point regarding education... When was the last time you saw Europeans actually agree on something?

Its not possible rigth now.
But in the future when we will face a threat against the whole world then we will unite not because we will choose to do so but because we wont have any other option than to unite.

We think now we are the best and can do alot of things. Actually we are nothing in this big universe. Nothing.. We cant even use half of our brain. But someday we will understand that we wasted our years with stupid wars and mainly wars about religion. Then we will unite.. and we will understand that this way we are more stronger and smarter

And if we arent stronger or smarter the whole thing crumbles to dust and we have to work our way up from the invention of the brick. Ah well.... its worth a try.

Id like us to have a settlement somewhere in space before we try a global government. That way if there is a collapse we will have somebody unaffected to help us get things civilized again.

When was the last time you saw Europeans actually agree on something?
Define European. If you'll accept the definition of those states in the EU, then the Treaty of Nice is the last big treaty I can think of. Apart from that, there are the day-to-day negotiations in the EU that would also qualify.

Through out the last half century the nation state has proven its selfto be the strongest unit of power. Between these units there mst be as already mentioned a common goal, within europe the main two power blocks have been france and britain then these two were united against germany and after world war two all three against russia. With the decline of comunist rule and the soviet union this stance of aggression has slowly died out, in a sense the common goal or enemy has moved gradually eastwards and dissapeared. Without this there is no reason for europe to agree, all it's members have very different histories and associations with the rest of the world. However the same could be said for any group, what ever countries are included within the group the same tendancy for non-agreement will be prevelant.

But people bounderies are wearing down especially with the increasing amount of international imergration, also the spread of democracy, birth of organisation and growth of collective security. There may be room for fewer but larger states e.g. continental bounderies, but world unity seems not entirely impossible only extremely unlikely.

EI sparks:

Define European (jerrek)

...I think jerrek should define "American" first.

I’ve worked in a number of cities in various countries. I have friends that have lived in 5 or 6 different countries from Europe to Asia to the Americas. They go from Tokyo to Sydney and then to London and on to NY (conducting research or for computer stuff). In the short term I don’t see the world as one but the world cities as a sort of one world-city . The country’s themselves have begun to fade into the background and are less significant relative to the major cities they host. To me it begins to feel like there is one big city with different quarters; European, Asian, etc... The idea of traveling to any major city in the world to work is quite liberating and may be the begging of a one-world (at least city wise).

okay guys,....leme tell u this. My time is short. I will be captured if i dont leave. This world... is not run by us. This world is a fantasy world. The world we live in is a computer generated program to keep our minds busy. To keep us docile. In reality we have tubes that stick into our body and we give energy to robots. The matrix. The matrix is control. You must wake up. You must. The truth shall set you free. IM SERIOUS. IM NOT JOKING! THE MOVIE THE MATRIX WAS DESIGNED FOR US TO QUESTON THE REALITY WE LIVE IN! I sabatouged the matrix so a film could be shown, that is interesting in your culture.

WE MUST BEGIN TO FIGHT!