All was well and I was sitting playing my piano and sipping a nice cup of tea.
When all of a sudden I feel my hand playing faster and faster and I can't make it to stop. I panicked, felt that I should shout for help, but I couldn't. All I could do was to sit the and watch the hand play this crazy melody that had only three notes in it. Only after 15 minutes I could make it stop, and it took some effort, it could have played forever it seemed.
So, what is this?
I also got a vision with this experience. The room got dark and figures appeared, they looked alien or like djungle people, or some strange combo. One of them stretched his hand into mine and it was he that played.
So maybe the notes I was playing should be ananlyzed, it could be some code or language...or maybe my head needs to get analyzed.
After the experience, I got another vision, like seconds after I got the hand to stop. Then I was taken out in space and saw the Earth coming toward me. I then merged with the energy of the Earth. It was their way of saying thank you, that it was an honour to merge.
I don't know what to make of this, really. Never had any experience similar to this, not so powerful.
And if I were to make something like this up, I would have been far more interesting. Not saying that it wasn't interesting, but it was also very corny.
Like a standard new-age tale or something....:D
Anybody experienced something similar?

Unfortunetly I've never heard of such a thing paranormally. I would have to say you may have done nothing more than fallen asleep and had a vivid dream.

You know you could have been day dreaming.

I would be totaly amazed and dumbfounded by such an experience.

Please forgive me if you find this to be rude, but you seem to treat such an incredible thing very nonchalantly and you even refer to it as corny....

It makes me wonder wether you are simply yanking our chains?

What was in the tea you were sipping?

exsto_human why are you so prepared to believe everything you hear? You must be the most gullible person i have ever encountered. If i were to tell you that your actually a figment of my imagination and im controlling your every thought and action you would probably believe. By god man think about things before you say them.

Vortox, I don't know if this is clear from my post but I highly dissbelieve this story.

I suspect it is some form of a prank.

I have never so much as heard of such a thing and therefore find it highly unlikely to be true.

I am open to anything and everything, yes even to the fact that I myself might be wrong, however I do not believe in anything untill I have seen or experienced it my self.

So my friend you are mistaken, I would not believe you if you told me that I was a figment of your immagination. UNLESS you could prove it to me emphaticaly and beyond any shadow of a doubt.

So the things I "believe" in are results of my very own experience. Ideologicaly I take nothing to be true untill I see it myself, but I am human and imperfect so I admit with full conciousness that there are things that I believe in through mere inference. That is to say that the earth rotates arround the sun, that there exist atoms, protons, neutrons, neutrinos, quarks, etc, etc... I have never seen an atom but I have studied physics and find that it is a logical conclusion.

So in a way I am very logical, what I can see, experience and prove for myself, logicaly must be true. Infact it would be absurd of me to disbelieve the reality of my own experience. It would be like not believeing in air.

Therefore, what would be even more absurd than dissbelieving my own experience is giving anyone else but myself a higher authority than myself in dictating what MY reality is. That is not to say by any means that I choose to live in a subjective reality cut-off from the rest of the world, what I seek and strive for more than anyhting else is the expereince of true OBJECTIVE reality.
I want to know the TRUTH about the universe, and am seeking a path, the path to this expereince. Because contemporary science cannot explain or even strongly protests the phenomenon which I myself have proved for myself to be undoubtably true the answere to all my questions cannot possibly lie in science. I have found that logical dialectic only takes one to a certain point (the point at which I am at now) then it starts to work for anyone. So in a sense contemporary logical inference works for both arguements for and against any subject, both can be equaly convincing and no matter which side we choose we will still be doing so be mere arbitrary preference and predjudice.
Therefore truth is not to be found through a logical conclusion, not one that we are prepared to make (as individuals) at this point in our personal development.

I submit to you that the experience of objective reality is impossible as long as we harbour subjective opinions. Therefore the answere lies in the complete removal of all subjective elements, the removal of the ego the "I". Not unlike the logic of the buddhists I infer that as I have experienced the Astral Projection, (separation of the conciousness from the body) it means that there exists a reality outside that of the sensory perceptions of the physical body. I can from this conclude that it is not entierly impossible to experience such an objective reality outseid all subjective elements.


What was that that we were talking about? :D

OK, the first few sentences were enough.

It makes me wonder wether you are simply yanking our chains?

I thought you implied that his statement about his experiance being corny was yanking your chain. Not the fact that he may be lying. Sorry for the misunderstanding :D

I'm not joking or lying, this happened. It was not a dream. The nonchalant tone may be a protection against the fact that it did happen, which actually is too scary to admit.
I have it recorded, because it was not on regular piano but on a syntheseizer connected to a computer. I have listened to it many times already and it's equally mesmerizing every time, like falling into trance. I got a friend to listen to it, but he just laughed at the insanity of it all.
The tea was regular earl grey, nothing fancy.
I have no reason to make something like this up.

:confused:

Self-hypnotism?

Day dreaming?

Mental illness?

CIA mind control?

Hmm....

Unfortunetly you do have a reason to make it up, as many do on this forum. Youh ave given little to no proof that such a thing happen. Why don't you attach the file to your next post so we can hear this "phenomenon"

What reason would that be Votorx? Fame and glory for "Yes"?
I will attach it as soon as I make an mp3 out of it. I have been experimenting a bit with it, making it into a full music piece, adding some drums and varying the instruments. When I recorded it , I had one sound chosen "tububell", with other sounds different melodies can be heard.
Daydreaming? No.
Self hypnotism? Maybe.
Mental illness? Always.
CIA mind control? Lol, why would they do that?

You're reasons? You get a kick out of saying completely irrelevant things to see which gullible fools would believe you. Therefore you will stop at nothing to convince people that this experiance was for real, and once you do you will laugh in there face, just as Jacoriah did. Unless you have more proof then an unheard of documentation then you cannot believe anyone to believe you. Once you get the song set up and posted i will be happy to hear it. Untill then i believe that what you have been saying nothing but a lie.

If that's your attitude you really don't deserve to hear it.

If that's your attitude you really don't deserve to hear it.

If that's the case then it's quite obvious that you were lying, just as everyone believed.

Hand gets pretty tired playing the same three notes for fifteen minutes.

If you find you are falling into a state that causes you to repeat the same motions for long periods of time, unable to stop, you should pay a visit to your doctor; there may be a more mundane explanation (and if it's a neurological problem you want to diagnose early rather than late).

Oh... what is a djungle person?

BigBlueHead, it hasn't happened before, but I will look out for repetetive behaviour.
"Djungle person" was a bit how they looked, medium brown skin, with maybe some loincloth with big blue? eyes, the memory is already faiding...
So in that manner it was a bit dreamlike, just that my hand kept playing.

I will post the melody anyway, regardless of what anybody think about it being true or not.

YES, your story is interesting. You say it was like a trance, could you have been in a semi meditative state. And have you had any other experiences like this before? And Vortorx please don't accuse people of being gullable beacause they respond to something in a way you don't agree with. You are very quick to judge aren't you?

Katelyn, making music always involves some kind of meditative state, so maybe it got enhanced somehow this time.
I haven't had any similar experience. I meditate from time to time, but there's never a "story" present then. And I have never lost control over my body before. Well, I have, but not in that way...

Well, I'm having a problem uploading the mp3. I can't do it here and I have searched for free websites to put it on, but noone seem to take mp3:s as a fileformat.
So I don't know what to do now...

And Vortorx please don't accuse people of being gullable beacause they respond to something in a way you don't agree with. You are very quick to judge aren't you?

And im going to have to ask you to please stop judging others. If you hadn't notices i had made a mistake, plus i've argued with exsto many times and yes i have seen him accept many things where there were no proof of it being real, so i do believe him to be gullible to an extent. As for you, after 1 post you accused me of being quick to judge when this isn't so. Maybe you are the one who is
very quick to judge aren't you?

Well, I'm having a problem uploading the mp3. I can't do it here and I have searched for free websites to put it on, but noone seem to take mp3:s as a fileformat.
So I don't know what to do now...


If this is the case then you need to e-mail it to us. Please e-mail that mp3 to either of these 2 addresses, Votorx@hotmail.com, Votorx@yahoo.com. Of course you don't have to but if you wish for someone to analyze it and see what happened then i reccommend doing it.

I would absolutely love to do that, but my hotmail account doesn't take 12mb, which the damn song weighs ( I can't reduce the weight any more, it was originally 145mb) Do you know any other free mail system that could do it? Then I will sign up immediately.

YES, if you have msn messenger give me your email and you can send it to me through the file transfer system since there is not limit to the size you can send. That and i would also like to talk to you about it IF YOU ARE SERIOUS. If you are not serious then laugh at me and call me a gullible idiot for i would rather have that than you wasting my time.

Ok, I will pm it to you. If anybody else wants to hear it, then pm me and I will give you my msn email.

I would absolutely love to do that, but my hotmail account doesn't take 12mb, which the damn song weighs ( I can't reduce the weight any more, it was originally 145mb) Do you know any other free mail system that could do it? Then I will sign up immediately.


Yes msn messanger works. Also you can try e-mail it to me at Votorx@yahoo.com. My msn sn is Votorx. Lol if you haven't caught on that all my names for everything is votorx then you are pretty stupid.

I have checked out the function of my msn ( my computer doesn't support OSX, so I can't have the latest version of msn) , but I can't find any file transfer system...?
I'm no computer wizard, as you may have guessed by now...
I have another private email, but I'm reluctant to use it, since I want to remain anonymous.

So now you coming up with a bunch of bull so you wouldn't have to send us the music?

No, I'm as annoyed myself. I really want to share the music.

Fine. E-mail it to Votorx@yahoo.com. I can seriously care less about what your e-mail address is. After you e-mail it to me i will give it to whomever wants it.

Can your inbox support 12mb?

Hello Yes,

I would be very interested to hear the music. I can provide you with
an FTP site that you can upload the .mp3 to. If you are ok with this
idea then I will PM you the details.

Thanks,

-CC

Excuse me Vortorx! I have had at least 7 posts!!! LOL. But its always such an honour to be in your little grey quote box....heh heh.

All was well and I was sitting playing my piano and sipping a nice cup of tea.
When all of a sudden I feel my hand playing faster and faster and I can't make it to stop. I panicked, felt that I should shout for help, but I couldn't. All I could do was to sit the and watch the hand play this crazy melody that had only three notes in it. Only after 15 minutes I could make it stop, and it took some effort, it could have played forever it seemed.
So, what is this?
I also got a vision with this experience. The room got dark and figures appeared, they looked alien or like djungle people, or some strange combo. One of them stretched his hand into mine and it was he that played.
So maybe the notes I was playing should be ananlyzed, it could be some code or language...or maybe my head needs to get analyzed.
After the experience, I got another vision, like seconds after I got the hand to stop. Then I was taken out in space and saw the Earth coming toward me. I then merged with the energy of the Earth. It was their way of saying thank you, that it was an honour to merge.
I don't know what to make of this, really. Never had any experience similar to this, not so powerful.
And if I were to make something like this up, I would have been far more interesting. Not saying that it wasn't interesting, but it was also very corny.
Like a standard new-age tale or something....:D
Anybody experienced something similar?

I haven't experienced anything like this before, but I wouldn't say that it's not possible. It's a good idea to open your mind to all possiblities. I suggest you to follow your feelings rather than your mind.

Crunchy cat, yes I'm interested.

Glad to hear it. I am going to set up an FTP account today and I will
PM you with instructions. You will receive an update from me no later than
2:00 p.m. PST.

-CC

Excuse me Vortorx! I have had at least 7 posts!!! LOL. But its always such an honour to be in your little grey quote box....heh heh.


??? If you hadn't noticed I was referring to the fact that you judged me after looking at only one of my posts. You're confusing yourself please stop.

Oh yes and it's my pleasure to include you in the quote box, infact i've done it again just to make you happy. :D

Yes,

The PM has been sent.

-CC

Someone upload this somewhere! I'm a musician and I'm curious about this!

Correct. Yes is going to upload the file to my FTP site; after which,
I'll zip it up, password protect the zip file, re-upload the zip file to the
FTP site (different location) and announce the location and password
on this thread. I suspect that I'll leave the file out there for 30 days
or so; after which, I'll delete it (bandwidth ain't free ya' know)?

You got it?

I am downloading it as I type...

I zipped it up, password protected it, and uploaded it. Here is how to grab
it.

DOWNLOAD URL:

ftp://ftpuser:cso2000@ftp.merc-int.com/pub/for_CrunchyCat/crvx.zip/

ZIP PASSWORD:

sciforums


Yes, thaks for the upload.

No, thank you. :)

I can't seem to access the file?

"Internet Explorer cannot download crvx.zip/ from ftp.merc-int.com.

The server returned extended information."

Whatever that means.

Well, I'm listening to it right now... it's quite interesting. You stayed within the same scale throughout the whole song. One thing that is apparent is that you kept hitting the B key all throughout the song. I'm not sure what it means as of yet... but the B key is the thing that stands out the most. I don't know if it's some sort of sign or what. I'll study it more when the time comes.

I can't seem to access the file?

"Internet Explorer cannot download crvx.zip/ from ftp.merc-int.com.


I got this error too. Try this: right-click on the link, choose Properties, copy the link to the clipboard, paste it into the address box of Internet Explorer, remove the slash at the end, then press Enter. When I do this, I get an option to save the file.

It is interesting music. Even though it uses few notes, it shows a lot of talent. I doubt it denotes anything other than impromptu passion.

Yes – I take your experience at face value. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the help. And congratulations, you are the first person I've seen to make a weird claim, say they've got some file they "really want to give to everyone else" and actually come through.

The melody is interestingish tho rather long. If it's some kinda code, I wouldn't know where to start. Maybe it's like morse :p One note for long, one for short, and one for stop. I doubt that tho.

Well, I don't know what it is either. It was a weird experience that produced a weird song. Thank you for listening though. :)

Dude, if you played it on a synth, why don't you upload it as a midi file. That will take up a lot less space. Only a few kilobytes I would imagine. :)

Besides, you can use a sequencer to show the notes.

And congratulations, you are the first person I've seen to make a weird claim, say they've got some file they "really want to give to everyone else" and actually come through.

He's the 2nd person I've seen. I still haven't gotten a chance to listen to
the mp3, but it is something I look forward to nonetheless.

Deadwood, true, but everybody can't listen to a midi. A midi contains no sound, only data. I checked, and the midi file only weighs 65 K, so that I can mail to anyone that wants it.

Yes,

I listened to the music (I had to skip around as I don't think I could have
lasted throghout the whole 'song' :) ). Anyhow I only noted one pattern
and that was a 2-key minor cord of A-flat and B (right under middle C).
Beyond this there were no coherent patterns that I could discern.

While I have no reason to doubt that you did in fact experience this event,
my instinct and preliminary research indicate that you may have suffered
from a 'Temporal Lobe Seizure'. I am attaching a link for your reference:

http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/10/1680_54772

I don't want to scare you, but your experience is right on par with the
symptoms of this type of seizure and according to the above article a first-
time Temporal Lobe Seizure of this lengh is something to go to the hospital
for (in other words, drop everything and make this the #1 priority in your life).

Hey, that was scary. But I doubt any doctor would take my experience seriously and examine my brain for it, maybe if it happens again.
But that got me thinking that perhaps many "supernatural" experience can actually be a result of "temporary lobe seizure", or that "temporary lobe seizure" is the physical evidence that supernatural phenomena exists. Depends on how you wish to perceive reality.

Hey, that was scary. But I doubt any doctor would take my experience seriously and examine my brain for it, maybe if it happens again.
But that got me thinking that perhaps many "supernatural" experience can actually be a result of "temporary lobe seizure", or that "temporary lobe seizure" is the physical evidence that supernatural phenomena exists. Depends on how you wish to perceive reality.

Yes, sorry... didn't mean to scare ya' :). Regardless of the nature of a seizure,
it is a seizure nonetheless and it can kill the individual experiencing it. Can
you imagine what would have happened if this 'event' took place while you
were on the freeway? I honestly think that you were quite lucky to be
where you were when this happened.

The link seems to be broken. When I click on it I get the internet explorer error:

The page cannot be displayed.

anything I can do?

nevermind got it working.

anyways you say in your original post that you saw figures. explain these figures to the best of your ability. and have you ever experienced something "not so normal" before? Anything at all?

Yes- its not hard to believe that your vision was tied directly to the notes you made on the piano- if you have an open mind(unlike others). Plus, seeing that post on page 2 about someone's friend who figured out how to map the crop circles into data that can be transformed into music, it only fits the puzzle pieces that are scattered here. you got a message buddy, from another world, possibly another dimension, or possibly from within your own mind.

I will try to listen to the file when i get home today, but i already know it is something very interesting. and be certain that it happened for a reason. you need to remember what you saw in the vision, like can u explain it in detail the events that happened within the vision. i know it might be hard since it happened a while back, but try.

what i think is that for some reason you were contacted by visitors from another realm, maybe from our own realm, but highly doubtful. they see something in you , maybe your piano skills, maybe someone you know, that THEY NEED. think about this:

lets say the people who contacted YES were trying to send a message to Everyone about something Important. Firstly, you must know that if they visited you within a "daydream" visual, then they are from another realm, possibly from the future. they are advanced, no doubt about that, since they can tap into your thoughts, vision, and motions (hand on piano) and control them somewhat. Now, let me elaborate on this. A question that might arise is, "why me?"
Lets say the "beings" needed to get a message across. how would they do this? crop cirlce? well, maybe theyre not aliens or maybe they know everyone dissmisses crop circles nowadays. No, they need their message to reach certain people, so that it can travel onto people who will believe it. What IF these BEINGs knew you would post the EVENT here and share the notes with others likely to have some interest in it. pretty smart, eh?

theres more to it than just the notes and your visual- they mean something. my idea here is just a thought, and could be wrong- but definetely consider it, it might shed some light on something. Other ideas can be formulated, its up to us to grab the bits and pieces from all of the info and stitch back the fabric.

And im going to have to ask you to please stop judging others. If you hadn't notices i had made a mistake, plus i've argued with exsto many times and yes i have seen him accept many things where there were no proof of it being real, so i do believe him to be gullible to an extent. As for you, after 1 post you accused me of being quick to judge when this isn't so. Maybe you are the one who is

I think you have mistaken me for someone else, I never accept anything to be true unless I see it myself. ;)

Yes,

Honestly, I have no idea wether this story is true or not.

It is wrong of me to say that I know that it didn't happen, because that would be a lie. It is wrong of me to say that I know that it did happen, because that would also be a lie.

IF this is truely a message to you you should do all you can to decifer it, to find out the truth. I can't see what could be a higher purpouse than truth.

But as far as I'm concerned, it might as well have been an Acid flashback from a trip you had while listening to the band that you share your screen name with. :)

Use the intuition of your heart. And all will be revealed to you.

Yes,

Perhaps your playing generated a resonance frequency with the transcendental object in future hyperspace, causing a rapid download of information to your cerebral cortex. Some kinds of chanting accomplish a similar thing.

I am sorry I cannot download the music.

I am sorry I cannot download the music.

That's because I removed it (I gave a 30 day time limit and this has expired).

Yes,

Perhaps your playing generated a resonance frequency with the transcendental object in future hyperspace, causing a rapid download of information to your cerebral cortex. Some kinds of chanting accomplish a similar thing.


Personally, I think it's a prismatic message from our great lord Xipe Totec of the Psedothai.

You might be right Crunchy Cat, I never considered that...

or, those particular tones activated a cloaked orbital earth satellite put in place by the Zog long ago to monitor the development of intelligent life, which sent a confirming message to the sender in the form of a vision. Expect a visit...