Deja-vu is something everyone has but not very often. Perhaps 10 in a year or so... (im not sure)...

The strange thing is that one day I had like 5 of them on the same day...

After that, luckily, they are appearing as often as they should (which means not very often) but now I have this problem that I dont know if they are deja-vus or something else because I dont get the strange and kind of strong feeling that I used to when I got one... perhaps It just has to do with me getting older?

Has this happened to anyone else? I think it is really weird...

A strange deja-vu problem.

Deja-vu is something everyone has but not very often. Perhaps 10 in a year or so... (im not sure)...

The strange thing is that one day I had like 5 of them on the same day...

After that, luckily, they are appearing as often as they should (which means not very often) but now I have this problem that I dont know if they are deja-vus or something else because I dont get the strange and kind of strong feeling that I used to when I got one... perhaps It just has to do with me getting older?

Has this happened to anyone else? I think it is really weird...

Yeah I know it sounds silly...

It's not silly... Deja-vus are common...
You are not getting older... this has nothing to do with the lack of deja-vus...
They are usually a memory of something that happened in a dream... simbolically or literally. Try to remember dreams that have to do with what happened on that day. If you remember lots of dreams, you'll most likely get it...
Your subconscient is trying to tell you something important... watch closely your deja-vus. Next time you have a deja-vu, remember your dreams (usually from the same day) and interpret them using the moment of your deja-vu.

It's a good idea do a journal of your dreams... help you remember them and also make it easier for you to have lucid dreams...

Hope have helped...

Love,
Nelson

okey, thanx alot, ill remember that!

The mundane explanation of Deja Vu is that your brain mixes up your current exerience with your memory. So you feel like what you're experiencing is a memory, when actually you've just got your wires crossed. So there's nothing mystical or magical about it......it's just your brain stuffing up.

Io

Well... there's nothing mistical or magical in subconscient memory... They are concepts hightly spread in psychology...

Crossed wires... that's strange... :p

Love,
Nelson

Check out a book called the holotropic mind. May be you can find something there. Report to us what you find. I am too lazy to read....

there's also the notion that, since our conscious and subconscious minds are constantly interacting with the world simultaneously, it just happens sometimes that your subconscious processes what's happening just a *bit* ahead of your conscious. part of your brain's saying "been there, done that," even though it was just a split second ago, before your awareness has processed the moment.

I occasionally have deja-vu too. For me, the way it works is...well, here is an example.

I was preparing for a presentation for my sales people to train them on the new service we are offering. I collected all the material, went over in my mind, what I am going to say etc - while I was in Huntsville. Two days later, I had a dream about me giving the presentation to 5 people in a conference room with the window overlooking a man-made small lake and blue glass buildings behind. I was standing in front of a white board looking at the table and the window was to the left. One of the person said something like - this is exactly what we have to present to the upper management because they do not understand details in technology.

When I woke up, that day, I made a few notes from my dream to finalize the presentation. No surprise there. I do this all the time. Now, about a month later, we opened an office in Atlanta. Another month later I had to go there for the first time (to that office), to train the new salespersons. Guess what, the meeting room was exactly like my dream. The deja-vu kicked in when one of the salesperson at the end of the presentation said - this is exactly what.....

I still have no idea about the mechanism of deja-vu.

Okay,my understanding of Deja Vu is that they are nothing but experiences,that you already have had.the cause of this primarily may be due to past subdued sub-concious memory storage,(Neural pattern),so if the net recieves the same pattern of electrical signals for storage it triggers off the message that it already has it...
i"m not an expert,but Merlijn or may be Stryder could help us with this.

PS:i have had a lot of Deja VUs myself...


bye!

Has this happened to you before?

Although it may seem outlandish to my more skeptical self my theory about deja vus is, well, this:

In Earth's orbit we pass through several dimensions, so sometimes we have deja vus all the time that coincide with our dreams or just conscious and subconscious thoughts, while other times we may have no deja vus. I do notice that in some weeks and months I'll be driven insane by seeing nothing but familiar things, even the future. It kinda gets boring after awhile, seeing something occur and saying to yourself 'there's nothing really special about this.'

I prefer not having deja vus at all for those reasons, because it does annoy me.

I Would say i started having deja-vu's about 4 years ago (or i just started noticing
them). At first it was COOL to know exactly what was going to happen for that spilt
second. But since then it's been getting on my nerves. I have them more often
and they are getting much longer. Sometimes i get stuck because i'm just looking
and hearing all these things i have heard and saw before. Before i use to like having
deja-vu's but now i get sort of mad, because it feels as if my life has already
happened and i'm just living it.

The strangest one i think was having a deja-vu of me having a deja-vu?!? I always
ask my friends if they get deja-vu's but they rarely or never get deja-vu's, why do i
get so many??
It's very strange.

George

Some people say it's to do with brain activity and the right side processing stuff faster than the left. So really what's happening is not that your experiencing stuff you did ages ago, simply moments ago. (Remember your brain works a lot faster than you think.. haha) It's just a crossed wire. Are you good at painting, poetry, music? These are all right sided activities and could explain the problem. I'm not sure that there is a cast in stone medical or psychological opinion on deja. But if anyone out there knows one I'm quite interested too, (I'd look myself but I'm sneaking at work!)

Tata:D

Bbcboy, et alia:

"I'm not sure that there is a cast in stone medical or psychological opinion on deja. But if anyone out there knows one I'm quite interested too, (I'd look myself but I'm sneaking at work!)"

Just recieved this link via e-mail:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/askexpert/biology/biology63/

We don't yet have a definitive account of the mechanisms that produce déjà vu but a number of theoretical approaches have been advanced. Sigmund Freud, the developer of psychoanalysis, proposed that déjà vu happens when a person is spontaneously reminded of an unconscious fantasy. Because it is unconscious, the content of the fantasy is blocked from awareness, but the sense of familiarity leaks through and results in the déjà vu experience.

More recently déjà vu has been explained in terms of information processing. For instance, Herman Sno, one of the world's leading experts on the topic, has proposed that memories are stored in a format that is similar to that used to store holographic images. Most people think about holography as a way of creating cool 3D images and as an excuse to play with laser beams. But the aspect of holography that is central to Sno's thesis is how holograms store information. In particular, Sno points out that unlike traditional photography, each section of a hologram contains all the information needed to produce the entire picture. The smaller the section one uses, however, the less precise (and fuzzier) the resultant image becomes. According to Sno, human memory works in an analogous way. Déjà vu experiences occur when one’s current situation spuriously matches one of these fuzzy images of a past event. It's rather like convincing yourself that you recognize the person in a blurry security camera picture.

It is also possible to explain déjà vu in terms of global matching models of memory. According to these models, a situation can seem familiar for one of two reasons. It may seem familiar because it is extremely similar to a single event stored in memory. But a situation can also seem familiar if it is moderately similar to a large number of events stored in memory. For instance, imagine you are in an experiment in which you are shown pictures of various people in my family: my brothers John and Joe, my sisters Sharon, Linda and Judi, my parents Walter and Patricia, and so on. Now as you're walking out of the experiment you happen to bump into me. You might have the experience of seeing me and thinking to yourself, "Hey, that guy looks familiar." The reason for this is that although nobody in my family looks exactly like me (the poor devils) they all look somewhat like me and according to global matching models the similarity tends to summate. Some experiences of déjà vu could be explained in a similar way.

As usual, science is explaining somthing claimed as 'unexplainable' only a short time before. ;)

Some people say it's to do with brain activity and the right side processing stuff faster than the left. So really what's happening is not that your experiencing stuff you did ages ago, simply moments ago.

That's silly. The brain halves work as one unit via the corpus callosum. If you are born without one or have it cut, then the two halves work separately. This is less than 1% of the population though.

I have heard that deja vu is experienced if a certain area of the temporal lobe is stimulated. How this area is triggered in normal conditions is another thing.

Also there is something called Jame Vu (I think that's how it is spelled). It's the opposite of Deja Vu. In Jame Vu, you are in a familiar place, but you feel like you've never been there before. A type of alienation from your surroundings.

-Xenu

I am not a believer.
I don't go to church, don't believe in destiny, hand-reading etc. and I am always looking for a scientific explanation. Even if I don't understand parts of science I tell myself there is always a rational explanation for everything.
BUT for a couple of months ago I visited a friend on a typical friday night and when I enterd the living-room I suddenly had a deja-vu. It was very short and the main focus of this deja-vu was on this girl I have never seen before. For that very instant I thought to myself that deja-vu do occur and there must be an explanation, but after the deja-vu was over the girl said "Oh I just had a deja-vu" (everything took place in very short time--span and all the other people I knew).
This wasn't my first deja-vu and this does not happpend very often to me, but talking in terms of math what is the probability that two people have a deja-vu at the same time. I was the only person entering the room and I even asked a friend who was present at the same time whether he had a deja-vu aswell...but he did not.
Now, although I did not confront her, I am very sure that the focus of her deja-vu was on me aswell.
Now again in terms of math...the probability is more or less "0", as first of all deja-vu occur rarely and are very short and it is even more unlikely that two people have deja-vu at the same time.
I am not looking for an explanation, but does anyone have similar experiences?

Oooh ooh I do!!

~Quick search of previous post on another forum...heh, repeating myself again!~

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deja vu :~ the experience of thinking that a new situation had occurred before ~

Now, I hadn't seen my older brother for 10 years, right. My contact with him in those 10 years was limited to short "Hello, hows it going?" phone calls overseas. I eventually got to see him face to face after all this time and we were up talking and reminiscing into the wee hours when I asked him if he remembers a certain christmas time when I was 4 years old, before we moved house. As I was asking him if he remembered the details of this night he stopped me mid-sentence with a look of confusion on his face and asked "Have you asked me this before?".
At the same time as he was beginning to ask me this I got the same sense of 'deja vu' and realised that I was saying word for word in exact detail something eerily familiar. There was about 5 minutes of uncomfortable silence after we queried each other about what the hell had just happened. Twin deja vu?? How can that be possible if 'they' say it is a 'trick of the mind', a short-term memory/long term memory mix up? I say it was 'freaky'!!!
Something I will remember forever.

Umm...this is also my most earliest vivid memory I have and no, we have never discussed anything like this before that night.

=)
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It's a real trip huh! :bugeye:

i have alot of deja vus too, they suck. I get dizzy though and want to faint, it's bad, and it always happens. I find myself feeling like i did the same thing that did maybe a a minute, hour, or even a year ago over and over again, it's wierd.

Originally posted by DjFrEaK
i have alot of deja vus too, they suck. I get dizzy though and want to faint, it's bad, and it always happens. I find myself feeling like i did the same thing that did maybe a a minute, hour, or even a year ago over and over again, it's wierd.

Same here, cept I don't get dizzy or anything, I just remember seeing somthing or doing something, but I've never really have. And you'd think you'd get deja vu on really important stuff, like you get deja vu about a car crash or something, but I don't. It's over small, insenificant things. The most recent was me and my mom and my younger bro walking down the stairs of our apartment, having a convorsation; I remember haveing that exsact thing (down to every little detail) happening before, but it really hasn't. But it's never anything important; all I can do is just predict what the person will say next, and stuff like that; I really dun get what the point of it is...

Ok, I'm done babling...

well, as for deja vu's, I've them all the time, but then again, that goes into a lot of non science, and it seems most here on this thread believe the science, so I'll not bog you, but if its science, then maybe i need to get my head checked, becuase I'm double living my life :P
Its odd, becuase their mostly my dreams played over, and its not even a normal everyday situation all the time, so the crossed wires thing couldn't apply for every instant, but i do think it an intresting topic, I get deja vu's about 3-9 times a week, and the deja vu usually lasts anywhere from 3-15 mins
oh well ::shrug::
someone give me some scientific insight !

deja vu is not something that you know of before it happens, that is precognition. deja vu is one of a few things. it can not be proven because it is what you feel and nobody else can. one possibility, a very logical one, is that the nerves that move from your eye to your brain are moving at 2 different speeds. it has to move more than 25 milleseconds more, because thats how long it takes for the brain to interpret and think of what you just saw. so one nerve for one eye could move faster than the other one. you have to different visual stems, one is more advanced than the other, the less advanced one is usually used with blind people. Another possibility is that both stems are used and the more advanced one recieves the information earlier than the less advanced one, there for you believe that you experienced the same thing twice, but did not. it was experienced at the same time, but does not appear that way because your two stems receive it at different times. no matter what the time difference has to be more than 25 milleseconds. that is all information that is theorized by proffesionals.
sincerely yours,
katy and dave.
done by us for you.

The mundane explanation of Deja Vu is that your brain mixes up your current exerience with your memory. So you feel like what you're experiencing is a memory, when actually you've just got your wires crossed. So there's nothing mystical or magical about it......it's just your brain stuffing up.


Often I find that I can sort of "fast forward" my deja vu experiences to see what's coming next in the deja vu, so that rules out some of these explanations. I did this in my latest deja vu. I was at work, and had deja vu, and I looked ahead to the next several seconds, and they happened just as I thought it would in the deja vu. I looked ahead several minutes, but the deja vu only lasted a couple minutes. After a certain point the feeling faded, but there was still opportunity for what I saw in advance to occur. It didn't though. It's strange when it happens, because even though I'm supposedly looking to the future, it still happens as I see it, unless I do something to change it usually. If I don't, the deja vu feeling can last longer than I'd think considering I can see what's coming.
It wasn't until relatively recently I've been able to do this, and I've only done it a few times. Normally it's just a regular deja vu.

Hmmmm... ive had similar experiences with de ja vu, or pre cognition, only the ones that catch my attention are the ones that occur in dreams two or even three days ahead of the event. and i dont mean Waking dreams or any thing like that.... these are dreams about really mundane stuff, like something that happens at work, or a conversation about an obscure topic,or an ordinary object of no consequence.... seems to point to me that it isnt the subject in question, but the context of the coincidence, and more often than not , there seems to be a relitavely strong emotional component to these incidents, i tend to remember the event in vivid detail, both the precursor, and the event itself..... as if "dense events" have the effect of casting their shadow into the past, like some sort of pre-echo....

It seems everyone I've spoken to who claims to have done some sort of precognition claims to have done so via dreams. My precognitions are not during dreams though. They are while I'm wide awake and have pretty much the same feeling as deja vu.

yeah, ive definitely had waking precognition. once i was out with people, and i had that bizzare sensation of de ja vu, but it felt like a memory, and i managed to get more information than just the wierd "mirror" effect, i knew beyond a doubt that we would have trouble with transport home, and i even said so, excusing myself for being wierd, and sure enough, we all ended up walking a couple of ks to get home......do you think this is self fulfilling prophesy, coincidence or maybe just being the lynchpin in a given situation,where your word actually infleunces future events?.....

That sounds like the same thing. It was like a memory of a future event, with a deja vu type of feeling.
I don't think it is self fulfilling prophecy, as mine were avoided. Luckily so.

I Would say i started having deja-vu's about 4 years ago (or i just started noticing them). At first it was COOL to know exactly what was going to happen for that spilt second. But since then it's been getting on my nerves. I have them more often and they are getting much longer. Sometimes i get stuck because i'm just looking and hearing all these things i have heard and saw before. Before i use to like having deja-vu's but now i get sort of mad, because it feels as if my life has already happened and i'm just living it.

The strangest one i think was having a deja-vu of me having a deja-vu?!? I always ask my friends if they get deja-vu's but they rarely or never get deja-vu's, why do i get so many?? It's very strange.

I get them just the same way, and very frequently. I've noticed that when I play video games for an extended period of time, it seems to trigger it, so I'm very inclined at this point to agree with the temporal fits explanation that I've heard. I've tried applying spiritual meaning to it, and recording my dreams, etc... but very little, if anything, has thus far resulted from those efforts.

So, again, I'm inclined to believe it's a kind of temporal lobe fit... I don't think it's necessarily epilepsy (unless accompanied by seizures,) as the studies indicate that it does lessen as you get older (as the original poster mentioned.) I think the most recent report I read said that people ages 15-25 (in and around there) experience deja vu the most frequently.

deja vu is not something that you know of before it happens, that is precognition. deja vu is one of a few things. it can not be proven because it is what you feel and nobody else can. one possibility, a very logical one, is that the nerves that move from your eye to your brain are moving at 2 different speeds. it has to move more than 25 milleseconds more, because thats how long it takes for the brain to interpret and think of what you just saw. so one nerve for one eye could move faster than the other one. you have to different visual stems, one is more advanced than the other, the less advanced one is usually used with blind people. Another possibility is that both stems are used and the more advanced one recieves the information earlier than the less advanced one, there for you believe that you experienced the same thing twice, but did not. it was experienced at the same time, but does not appear that way because your two stems receive it at different times. no matter what the time difference has to be more than 25 milleseconds. that is all information that is theorized by proffesionals.
sincerely yours,
katy and dave.
done by us for you.


I have to respectfully disagree with this explaination as it is based only on visual matters. In my experience with deja vu, everything seems familiar, sight, smell, sound, touch. Not just the typical five senses though, also thoughts feelings, emotions all feel familiar as well. I've analyzed my past deja vu experiences and would like to share what I've notice, but haven't heard anyone else talk about.


The experience typically begins with a sense of familiarity
Once I recognize that I'm having a deja vu experience, it is only then that I am able to "know" what is going to happen next. What will be said, or done. Call it precognition of you like.
Knowing what will happen next includes my own actions, not just those of others around me.
I then follow through with what I "know" I am going to do next as if I have no control over it myself.
If I focus on these actions that I "know" I'm about to do, and intentionally do something different from what I "remember having done before" I will break the deja vu event and the whole thing collapses, and the feeling fades.


The thing that trips me out the most is the loss of control over my own actions. These actions aren't anything major, but usually somthing I'm about to say, or simply some minor action like scratching my head.

I'm sorry I don't have any answers or theories as to the cause of this. But I hope my description of my own events will help everyone in some way.

--Chris
btw, please excuse my spelling... it's late!

I dnt know what deja vu r. Since i was kid, like 4 5 years old, it happened to me and, unfortunately now everything I do is a deja vu. With deja vus I m also having premonition dreams. The only thing I can say is that Im tired of all of this and that I would like to stop thinking and rest a bit
:mad: :(

I have deja vu way more than normal... probably 3 times a week on average.

but like its not the sort if stuff like getting fired, etc etc, its just stuff like conversations with people, or watching sumthin on tv, or saying something to someone and then remembering saying the same thing and somehow the conversation continues the same way i remeber w/o even trying...

like just now my mom said something about a show we were watching on tv and i asked a question and she answered and I remembered it exactly like that...

CHRIS, that's how it is for me!

locked

I have a problem with these theories. I like a lot of them from the science end. However, my problem is this. I can create deja-vu memories before I live them out. meaning I will have a dream I can clearly remember, even reoccurring ones. Then they happen and I remember the dream still. That is how it started. Also I know and express facts about my soundings that I wouldn't be able to know or guess. I have developed this somewhat into being able to focus into a thought and It happens Just as it had played out in my mind when I went into this hard concentrated focus. The downside was that I could not focus on one particular event I wanted. It was random flashes of what would happen. And It did. There was one that didn't yet. I'm waiting for it. Most would be within 3 months at the longest. The one that didn't happen yet was years ago. So who knows. It is hard to explain the way it works. It is almost like meditation I guess. I focus in and it has a transcendental feel to it. Like were all one and infinite, If that makes sense. This probably sounds like mumbo-jumbo crap but its hard to explain any other way for me. I feel worn out mentally when I do it and I get the chills and my hairs all stand up on my body. The little ones on arms legs and back of neck and such. And its fast. Just flashes of images and ideas all sort of at once. There is another side of this I don't like talking about at all. I am NOT religious in any way. I was recently informed by a wiccan that this is something they do...? Here it is... I get a feeling of worry about something happening to someone and I have to do the focus thing like in the forced deja-vu. Except this time I need to fully believe that the bad thing wont happen to them. I say it in my head and make sure there is not one negative feeling or thought involved. I see a white energy (ball)? from my center and when I expel the bad and say it won't happen the light or energy or whatever shoots out and it ends right there and I "wake up" drained mentally. The tough part is that I have to clear my mind of the topic completely right afterwards. Not one bit of it can remain. Good or bad. Just an overall sense of good but not thinking about it at all.

I have proof of me doing these things. Not the last part because there is no way of proving I stopped something from happening lol. But I can focus on seeing a person somewhere or a place before I arrive and they are there or the place is exactly how I see it. I think everyone can do this stuff. I don't think I am special or have any extra senses or crap like that. I have a feeling its linked to the same deja-vu everyone else has and they can develop it also.

I am a logical thinker without any belief in mystical fake garbage or nonsense.

I picked out lottery numbers a few times. 2 times or so was while watching on tv. I picked the numbers and one by one there they were. I once knew the number on a ticket while driving by a store and had to go in to place it and won. I KNEW the numbers were right. It wasn't a hunch. I just felt it was right and that I already knew it. Like I was looking at it or someone was saying it as if the lotto was over already and the result was right there in my head. The problem with that is most of the time I would get excited and then being as analytical as I am, I would over think it and find it hard to know what is the right set of numbers and what is thought about and processed. I got worse at this as time went on because I over think it now.

How is any of this explained? I have loads of examples of me doing these things and some proof from other people about some of them too. I wish there was some sort of study done on this with a bunch of people and see if they can learn to do the same stuff.

Sorry for this very long post. It is my first and I am very interested in this.

I had my first one when I was about 5-7 years old. I was in a house my parents were looking at to rent. I knew where everything was and details about it. I was really weirded out but excited and I told them I was there before and showed them where stuff was in this house that I was never actually in before. My parents told me to shut up and it was rude to go around or act the way I was or something. I think it embarrassed them or something. Hard to remember, but I remember what happened and the feeling had.

I dnt know what deja vu r. Since i was kid, like 4 5 years old, it happened to me and, unfortunately now everything I do is a deja vu. With deja vus I m also having premonition dreams. The only thing I can say is that Im tired of all of this and that I would like to stop thinking and rest a bit
:mad: :(

This thread has its own Deja-vu-a-deux doesn't it. Look at the date when it was started and then the rest of the dates as its been resurrected.:eek:

This timeline seems really messed up to me. Maybe it's trying to heal.

This thread has its own Deja-vu-a-deux doesn't it. Look at the date when it was started and then the rest of the dates as its been resurrected.:eek:

Deja vu all over again?

This means new readers are really reading this stuff. More power to them. With all the stuff in this forum, if someone can connect the dots and come up with new stuff - that would be wonderful.

I used to have a lot of deja-vu, but lately not much perhaps due to work related stress! Any one have the same problem?