A strange deja-vu problem.

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by Jez, Mar 20, 2002.

  1. Jez Optimist Registered Senior Member

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    Deja-vu is something everyone has but not very often. Perhaps 10 in a year or so... (im not sure)...

    The strange thing is that one day I had like 5 of them on the same day...

    After that, luckily, they are appearing as often as they should (which means not very often) but now I have this problem that I dont know if they are deja-vus or something else because I dont get the strange and kind of strong feeling that I used to when I got one... perhaps It just has to do with me getting older?

    Has this happened to anyone else? I think it is really weird...
     
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  3. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    A strange deja-vu problem.

    Deja-vu is something everyone has but not very often. Perhaps 10 in a year or so... (im not sure)...

    The strange thing is that one day I had like 5 of them on the same day...

    After that, luckily, they are appearing as often as they should (which means not very often) but now I have this problem that I dont know if they are deja-vus or something else because I dont get the strange and kind of strong feeling that I used to when I got one... perhaps It just has to do with me getting older?

    Has this happened to anyone else? I think it is really weird...
     
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  5. Jez Optimist Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah I know it sounds silly...
     
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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    It's not silly... Deja-vus are common...
    You are not getting older... this has nothing to do with the lack of deja-vus...
    They are usually a memory of something that happened in a dream... simbolically or literally. Try to remember dreams that have to do with what happened on that day. If you remember lots of dreams, you'll most likely get it...
    Your subconscient is trying to tell you something important... watch closely your deja-vus. Next time you have a deja-vu, remember your dreams (usually from the same day) and interpret them using the moment of your deja-vu.

    It's a good idea do a journal of your dreams... help you remember them and also make it easier for you to have lucid dreams...

    Hope have helped...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  8. Jez Optimist Registered Senior Member

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    okey, thanx alot, ill remember that!
     
  9. The mundane explanation of Deja Vu is that your brain mixes up your current exerience with your memory. So you feel like what you're experiencing is a memory, when actually you've just got your wires crossed. So there's nothing mystical or magical about it......it's just your brain stuffing up.

    Io
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Well... there's nothing mistical or magical in subconscient memory... They are concepts hightly spread in psychology...

    Crossed wires... that's strange...

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    Nelson
     
  11. kmguru Staff Member

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    Check out a book called the holotropic mind. May be you can find something there. Report to us what you find. I am too lazy to read....
     
  12. defenestrated Registered Member

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    there's also the notion that, since our conscious and subconscious minds are constantly interacting with the world simultaneously, it just happens sometimes that your subconscious processes what's happening just a *bit* ahead of your conscious. part of your brain's saying "been there, done that," even though it was just a split second ago, before your awareness has processed the moment.
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    I occasionally have deja-vu too. For me, the way it works is...well, here is an example.

    I was preparing for a presentation for my sales people to train them on the new service we are offering. I collected all the material, went over in my mind, what I am going to say etc - while I was in Huntsville. Two days later, I had a dream about me giving the presentation to 5 people in a conference room with the window overlooking a man-made small lake and blue glass buildings behind. I was standing in front of a white board looking at the table and the window was to the left. One of the person said something like - this is exactly what we have to present to the upper management because they do not understand details in technology.

    When I woke up, that day, I made a few notes from my dream to finalize the presentation. No surprise there. I do this all the time. Now, about a month later, we opened an office in Atlanta. Another month later I had to go there for the first time (to that office), to train the new salespersons. Guess what, the meeting room was exactly like my dream. The deja-vu kicked in when one of the salesperson at the end of the presentation said - this is exactly what.....

    I still have no idea about the mechanism of deja-vu.
     
  14. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    Okay,my understanding of Deja Vu is that they are nothing but experiences,that you already have had.the cause of this primarily may be due to past subdued sub-concious memory storage,(Neural pattern),so if the net recieves the same pattern of electrical signals for storage it triggers off the message that it already has it...
    i"m not an expert,but Merlijn or may be Stryder could help us with this.

    PS:i have had a lot of Deja VUs myself...


    bye!
     
  15. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Has this happened to you before?
     
  16. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Although it may seem outlandish to my more skeptical self my theory about deja vus is, well, this:

    In Earth's orbit we pass through several dimensions, so sometimes we have deja vus all the time that coincide with our dreams or just conscious and subconscious thoughts, while other times we may have no deja vus. I do notice that in some weeks and months I'll be driven insane by seeing nothing but familiar things, even the future. It kinda gets boring after awhile, seeing something occur and saying to yourself 'there's nothing really special about this.'

    I prefer not having deja vus at all for those reasons, because it does annoy me.
     
  17. JanetBoy7 Registered Member

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    I Would say i started having deja-vu's about 4 years ago (or i just started noticing
    them). At first it was COOL to know exactly what was going to happen for that spilt
    second. But since then it's been getting on my nerves. I have them more often
    and they are getting much longer. Sometimes i get stuck because i'm just looking
    and hearing all these things i have heard and saw before. Before i use to like having
    deja-vu's but now i get sort of mad, because it feels as if my life has already
    happened and i'm just living it.

    The strangest one i think was having a deja-vu of me having a deja-vu?!? I always
    ask my friends if they get deja-vu's but they rarely or never get deja-vu's, why do i
    get so many??
    It's very strange.

    George
     
  18. bbcboy Recovering christian Registered Senior Member

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    Some people say it's to do with brain activity and the right side processing stuff faster than the left. So really what's happening is not that your experiencing stuff you did ages ago, simply moments ago. (Remember your brain works a lot faster than you think.. haha) It's just a crossed wire. Are you good at painting, poetry, music? These are all right sided activities and could explain the problem. I'm not sure that there is a cast in stone medical or psychological opinion on deja. But if anyone out there knows one I'm quite interested too, (I'd look myself but I'm sneaking at work!)

    Tata

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  19. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Bbcboy, et alia:

    "I'm not sure that there is a cast in stone medical or psychological opinion on deja. But if anyone out there knows one I'm quite interested too, (I'd look myself but I'm sneaking at work!)"

    Just recieved this link via e-mail:

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/askexpert/biology/biology63/

    As usual, science is explaining somthing claimed as 'unexplainable' only a short time before.

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  20. Xenu BBS Whore Registered Senior Member

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    That's silly. The brain halves work as one unit via the corpus callosum. If you are born without one or have it cut, then the two halves work separately. This is less than 1% of the population though.

    I have heard that deja vu is experienced if a certain area of the temporal lobe is stimulated. How this area is triggered in normal conditions is another thing.

    Also there is something called Jame Vu (I think that's how it is spelled). It's the opposite of Deja Vu. In Jame Vu, you are in a familiar place, but you feel like you've never been there before. A type of alienation from your surroundings.

    -Xenu
     
  21. Boelk Registered Member

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    Deja-vu-a-deux

    I am not a believer.
    I don't go to church, don't believe in destiny, hand-reading etc. and I am always looking for a scientific explanation. Even if I don't understand parts of science I tell myself there is always a rational explanation for everything.
    BUT for a couple of months ago I visited a friend on a typical friday night and when I enterd the living-room I suddenly had a deja-vu. It was very short and the main focus of this deja-vu was on this girl I have never seen before. For that very instant I thought to myself that deja-vu do occur and there must be an explanation, but after the deja-vu was over the girl said "Oh I just had a deja-vu" (everything took place in very short time--span and all the other people I knew).
    This wasn't my first deja-vu and this does not happpend very often to me, but talking in terms of math what is the probability that two people have a deja-vu at the same time. I was the only person entering the room and I even asked a friend who was present at the same time whether he had a deja-vu aswell...but he did not.
    Now, although I did not confront her, I am very sure that the focus of her deja-vu was on me aswell.
    Now again in terms of math...the probability is more or less "0", as first of all deja-vu occur rarely and are very short and it is even more unlikely that two people have deja-vu at the same time.
    I am not looking for an explanation, but does anyone have similar experiences?
     
  22. ReaLiTY.FaiLuRe Registered Member

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    Oooh ooh I do!!

    ~Quick search of previous post on another forum...heh, repeating myself again!~

    [copy&paste]

    deja vu :~ the experience of thinking that a new situation had occurred before ~

    Now, I hadn't seen my older brother for 10 years, right. My contact with him in those 10 years was limited to short "Hello, hows it going?" phone calls overseas. I eventually got to see him face to face after all this time and we were up talking and reminiscing into the wee hours when I asked him if he remembers a certain christmas time when I was 4 years old, before we moved house. As I was asking him if he remembered the details of this night he stopped me mid-sentence with a look of confusion on his face and asked "Have you asked me this before?".
    At the same time as he was beginning to ask me this I got the same sense of 'deja vu' and realised that I was saying word for word in exact detail something eerily familiar. There was about 5 minutes of uncomfortable silence after we queried each other about what the hell had just happened. Twin deja vu?? How can that be possible if 'they' say it is a 'trick of the mind', a short-term memory/long term memory mix up? I say it was 'freaky'!!!
    Something I will remember forever.

    Umm...this is also my most earliest vivid memory I have and no, we have never discussed anything like this before that night.

    =)
    [/copy&paste]

    It's a real trip huh! :bugeye:
     
  23. DjFrEaK Registered Member

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    i have alot of deja vus too, they suck. I get dizzy though and want to faint, it's bad, and it always happens. I find myself feeling like i did the same thing that did maybe a a minute, hour, or even a year ago over and over again, it's wierd.
     

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