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BloodSuckingGerbile
09-01-02, 02:00 PM
I've been having trouble solving this:

Prove that if the function f(X) E D[0,1] and f'(0)=f'(1)=0, f(0)=1, f(1)=0, there is a X<sub>0</sub> E (0,1) so that f''(X<sub>0</sub>) >= 4.

Please help.

Thanks.

Han Baumer
09-01-02, 04:34 PM
What do you man by D[0,1]?

BloodSuckingGerbile
09-01-02, 05:31 PM
Oh, sorry. I thought it was an international symbol.

Anyway, it means differentiable in a given interval or something like that. I'm not sure that that's the word, again, my English is not perfect, but you got the idea, right?

Oh and I forgot. Differentiable twice, not once! Differentiable twice in the interval [0,1].

Thanks.

James R
09-01-02, 09:22 PM
Vague thoughts: Is the mean value theory or the intermediate value theorem relevant here?

(I'd have to look up their exact form.)

Han Baumer
09-02-02, 02:42 AM
Ah differentiable twice, so that means f, f' are both continuous so you can apply the mean value theorem (even twice):

f differentiable on [a,b] then there is a x E (a,b) such that
f'(x) = ( f(b)-f(a) ) / (b-a) (the mean descent/ascent).

f'(0)=f'(1)=0, f(0)=1, f(1)=0, there is a X0 E (0,1) so that f''(X0) >= 4

Applying the theorem once gives an x1 such that f'(x1)=(0-1)/(1-0)=-1.
Applying the theorem again for f' on the interval [0,x1] gives an x2 such that f''(x2)=(-1-0)/(x1-0)= -1/x1.
Applying the theorem again for f' on the interval [x1,1] gives an x3 such that f''(x3)=(0+1)/(1-x1)=1/(1-x1).

now I am stuck I think...




Greetings,

Han.

BloodSuckingGerbile
09-02-02, 08:21 AM
James R:

Yes, these theorems are relevant. In fact this is one of 12 problems given to me as a homework on the subject of the mean and intermediate value theorems.

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I was told the answer once but I forgot it :o...

I remember that it has something to do with the fact that the original function is

f(x)=2X<sup>2</sup> + C

but that's just one way to do it, I'm sure there are a dozen more.

Han, thanks for trying :)