I've just seen "A beautiful mind" with Russell Crowe.

To say that I was bored and utterly unimpressed by the film is an understatement. The whole film was extremely flat, pale and untouching.

The life and work of John Nash has been indeed tragic in many aspects, and also glorious. But the film does not do him justice.


I wonder why this film was so hailed, even awarded with an Oscar?!

I myself have it seen only recently, and I would agree whit your statement.

Alas, some of my friends really liked it. Perhaps I should have asked them why, I might have an answer now.

I saw it in the movie theatre and the only thought I can remember was that it was an 'ugly' movie.

R. Crowe is an "ugly" guy...

What is amazing is the way he reasoned out his hallucinations and could dispel them. My sister did a thesis on the film from a psychological perspective. Maybe that's the only reason I found it interesting. I enjoyed Shine much more.

What is amazing is the way he reasoned out his hallucinations and could dispel them.

Of course, this is amazing. But it was done so poorly in the film! I think it was a good idea to at first show those imaginary people just as if they were real, but it was still somehow flat.

I watched a documentary about John Nash, and when he in an interview said how he got tired of those hallucinations -- *that* was real. That left me deeply impressed.

this was a deep movie, and i liked it. i liked its message and i feel sympathy for Nash. i think we all can relate to him in the sense that "things aren't what they seem"

I thought the movie was quite good. It gave Nash the Hollywood treatment of course, and thereby glossed over a lot of inconvenient complications in his life, but I've seen far worse.

This was a deep shit movie that only people that like boredom enjoy. It really sucked IMO. The acting was bad, as was just about everything else. I am sorry I even downloaded it for free, but since have removed this pile of garbage from my HD.

From a film critic's perspective, the movie was pretty well done. I'd give it 7 out of 10.

From a science person's perspective, the movie was complete hogwash. I'd give it 3 out of 10.

Pickle- agreed.


I saw it with my step-mom who said "That really shows you how powerful the human mind can be!"
I think that this movie falls in with the crowd who thinks that Catcher in the Rye is a profound novel - people who have no insight into thier own lives.

To those of us who have already looked at how we work as both physical beings and as mental beings, the things brought up in this movie were sophmoric.

The only part of the movie that I thought came across ok was the scene where he's trying to find the implant under his skin. On of the better jobs in the movies of making such self-mutilation seem logical.

Hate to be abominably shallow, but although the movie bored me, Russell Crowe has puppy dog eyes so it was ok. :rolleyes: Sometimes I just can't help it. I can't be intellectual all the time.

Having known nothing of John Nash's life before watching the film, I found it very shocking to discover that so much of his social and vocational history was purely delusional. That was the main impact of the film for me - and, like The Matrix, it made me wonder a little about my life...

Crowe is a good actor, looking at the diversity of his roles and the way he tackles them. Jennifer Connelly was always a favourite of mine, though I admit I found her role in A Beautiful Mind rather plain and austerely miserable - perhaps I lack the subtlty of perception to understand why it won her an Oscar.

In my capacity as an amateur movie critic, I give ABM 6/10.

Jennifer Connelly was always a favourite of mine, though I admit I found her role in A Beautiful Mind rather plain and austerely miserable - perhaps I lack the subtlty of perception to understand why it won her an Oscar.

What won her an Oscar is that John Nash's wife Alicia sticked with her husband. Connelly's Oscar had little to do with Connelly's portrayal of Alicia.

I bet that if the film would also show that she divorced him while he was ill (which she did, they remarried later), Connelly wouldn't get that Oscar.

What won her an Oscar is that John Nash's wife Alicia sticked with her husband. Connelly's Oscar had little to do with Connelly's portrayal of Alicia.

That's hardly fair voting by the Academy judges.

Perhaps she should have got it for The House of Sand and Fog.

That's hardly fair voting by the Academy judges.

Errrmm ... "fair voting" and "Academy judges" is mutually exclusive, mind you.

For example, Ralph Fiennes definitely deserved an Oscar for his portrayal of Amon Goeth in "Schindler's List" -- but the Academy judges couldn't give the award for the part of a Nazi, could they?

Are there any film critics' organisations which you do regard as fair?

I know what you mean about Ralph Fiennes as Goeth. Maybe he would be awarded if the film were made 40 years later, when no living memories of the period remain.

A beautiful Mind? What a travashamockery!

I saw it when it was first released in the theatre so my memory is not perfect...but, that having been said...

The "beautiful" mind of his makes him ...

Insulting to women, and contemptful of ideas of romance and love...
A nervous, clumsy, speech-impaired fool... (his mind is so great, his body must be crippled)
and ultimately deeply pyschotic...

For all this bad, in exchange we get a five minute scene in which he realizes some supposed "completion" of Adam Smith's socio-economic theory... total and utter non-sense.

And most importantly...Truly the only fact about this movie you must know...

After the character of Nash relapses into his illness (after he almost lets his infant child drown in his bathtub)... In his conversation with his wife near or at the kitchen table...he once again expresses a strong will to fight his disease with his mind...and somone...the wife probably says something like...

to the effect of..."Your mind is the problem...follow you heart" Of course, I've heard this line before...a thousand times... and so, normally, I wouldn't care.....

But in "A beautiful Mind"...Omg. A complete disgrace... How can anyone have made this... this pollution... :mad: :D

Come on, it wasn't that bad. It seemed to me to portray a schizophrenic quite well, and I've known one, they are just like that, only it is extremely rare for them to recognize their delusions.

That you could like the movie for its portrayal of the facts of schizophrenia... I don't find any fault...

But the movie is about more than schizophrenia.

i am almost anti-Hollywood. its in your face. formularic, treating all subjects through their fukin American way propaganda grid

the reason i never wanted to see the film we're talkin about. did you know that Nash had homosexual encounteres?....no right, cause you've seen the film. but he did have

now, what blows my mind is....the subject of 'schizophrenia' has been and still is quite a taboo subject. YET obviously not as taboo as bisexuality. right?

well, its a good movie if you ask me.
it makes sense to me that schizo. is less taboo as bi.
i mean, who wants to hear of your dual-ways sexual excapades (hey that rhymed)?--that was sarcasm--
no, but seriously on this one:
mental instability, and the need to address it, is much more profound.
i mean, is homosexuality a problem? no.
is mental instability a problem? yes.
the latter needs to be addessed publicly because it potentially presents a danger to society as a whole.

I'm on break during my Psychology class, and afterwards we are watching the John Nash documentary "A Brilliant Madness". Obviously I haven't seen it yet, but I wanted to know if any of you have watched it, and if so, how true was "A Beautiful Mind" to the real story (other than ABM, I don't know much about Nash).

Oh, and ABM was a forgettable turd, and I can only say that I liked the "twist" about making the audience believe just as much as Nash the reality of his hallucinations (I know it wasn't a twist, but for the unwashed masses that know nothing about Nash and his story, it was a twist).

At any rate, "A Brilliant Madness" was amazing (obviously just got out of psych class).

It sort of glorified paranoid schizophrenia, but it was interesting nonetheless.

I don't know, check http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/nash/ for more information on the documentary if you haven't seen it already.

well, its a good movie if you ask me.

d)))whhhose assskin??....(joke)

it makes sense to me that schizo. is less taboo as bi.

d)))oh really.....why?

i mean, who wants to hear of your dual-ways sexual excapades (hey that rhymed)?--that was sarcasm--
no, but seriously on this one:

d))it wasn't sarcastic and it didn't rhyme, but go on

mental instability, and the need to address it, is much more profound.
i mean, is homosexuality a problem? no.

d)))it may not be a problem for YOU, but for those it is a problem it is a problem, and it needs exploring and not being hidden away. especially when it was a significant part of a character's life being portrayed on the silver screen.

is mental instability a problem? yes.
the latter needs to be addessed publicly because it potentially presents a danger to society as a whole.

why is it a danger? This is the propaganda. that 'schizophrenia' is dangerous. Actually it isn't. what IS, is total ignorance surrounding it.