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Tyler
11-26-02, 05:19 PM
Hey, if Adam can use bias sources, can't I do the same?



http://www.ourjerusalem.com/arabpress/story/arabpress20021107.html
Fuad Abu Hajleh, senior columnist for the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadidah, wrote on October 29, 2002 that the CIA masterminded the attack in response to Russia's opposition in the UN to American policy concerning Iraq:

"President Putin's ambassador to the Security Council is threatening to vote against the American's proposed resolution to attack Iraq. This is how we view the operation in the Moscow theater; we are of the opinion that the sympathy and friendship that bond Washington to several Islamic movements in Europe, among them the Chechens, cannot possibly be one-sided and there has to be some sort of repayment of the American friendship by the Mujahedin of Chechnya, Bosnia, Hercegovina and Kosovo. The CIA will never acknowledge its responsibility for this operation which claimed over 170 lives, including those of the perpetrators... However, the American message reached Moscow and was, perhaps, read the same way by the decision makers in France, who oppose the American pressure in the Security Council...we fear a recurrence of a bloody scene in the capitol of [our] friends, the French. We hope they are preparing for such an eventuality, lest it be Moscow first and Paris next."




http://www.ourjerusalem.com/arabpress/story/arabpress20020913.html
To cite one interesting example: A recent series of articles in a Saudi newspaper invoked the ancient "blood libel" against Jews, claiming Jews use human blood (non-Jewish, of course) to prepare their holiday delicacies. MEMRI translated and disseminated the series, which evoked widespread outrage, including a Voice of America editorial condemning Arab antisemitic incitement. The surprising result? The editor of the paper was embarrassed by the exposure and felt compelled to acknowledge publicly that the accusations in the articles are "not based on scientific or historical facts" — a rare victory for truth in the Arab world. One can only hope that publicizing and embarrassing the Arab media about their prejudiced provocations will more often have a salutary effect.




http://www.ourjerusalem.com/arabpress/story/arabpress20020912.html
The Palestinian Authority is continuing to honor Palestinian Arab murderers of Americans by naming schools, streets, and public squares after them. The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) is urging the Bush administration to immediately halt America's $100-million in annual aid to the Palestinian Arabs until all names of killers of Americans are removed from those sites.

* School Named After Killer of American: In August 2002, Palestinian Media Watch reported that a school in the PA-controlled town of Al-Shuyukh, near Hebron, had been renamed "Dalal Mugrahbi" school, in honor of a woman terrorist involved in the 1978 Tel Aviv Highway massacre of 37 people. One of Mugrahbi's victims was Gail Rubin, niece of U.S. Senator Abraham Ribicoff (D-CT). The school receives U.S. funding through the organization ANERA. Peter Gubser, an ANERA official, announced on August 11, 2002, that the school's directors had agreed to immediately change the name of the school.




http://www.ourjerusalem.com/arabpress/story/arabpress20020904.html
"Regardless of the norms of 'humanist' belief, which sees destroying the infidel countries as a tragedy requiring us to show some conscientious empathy and... an atmosphere of sadness for the loss that is to be caused to human civilization - an approach that does not distinguish between believer and infidel... - I would like to stress that annihilating the infidels is an inarguable fact, as this is the [divine] decree of fate..."

"When the Koran places these tortures [to be inflicted on the infidels] in the solid framework of reward and punishment... it seeks to root this predestined fact in the consciousness of the Muslim group, asserting that the infidels will be annihilated, so as to open a window of hope to the Muslim group..."
- This is all written by Seif Al-Din Al-Ansari of the news source Al-Ansar




http://www.ourjerusalem.com/arabpress/story/arabpress20020822a.html
Arafat to children:
“Oh, children of Palestine! The colleagues, friends, brothers and sisters of Faris Ouda [14 year old who died in the conflict]. The colleagues of this hero represent this immense and fundamental power that is within, and it shall be victorious, with Allah's will! One of you, a boy or a girl, shall raise the [Palestinian] flag over the walls of Jerusalem, its mosques and its churches...
"Onward together to Jerusalem!"
Children respond, cheering and chanting:
"Millions of Shahids marching to Jerusalem!"

Clockwood
11-26-02, 06:18 PM
It seriously worries me whenever someone uses the word "infidel". It signals the speaker feals his immediate group is right and everyone else is both wrong and evil bastards going to hell.

Adam
11-26-02, 09:02 PM
1) Which biased sources did I use?

2) Show me an unbiased source of news.

3) Does a source's bias make it invalid?

Tyler
11-27-02, 08:03 AM
1) Numerous pro-Palestinian sites. And most recently a site which is dedicated to showing "the Palestinian side" of the fight.

2) Impossible. Humans are bias. However, there is different extents of bias.

3) Often. It may not make it invalid, rather it is an extremely poor choice of source to learn from. Or to educate from.

Joeman
11-27-02, 08:05 AM
Dudes, you two take your fighting and "I am proving you wrong crap" outside. This forum is about world events & politics only.

Clockwood
11-27-02, 04:23 PM
"I am proving you wrong crap" constitutes most politics. Take it away and you deprive many politiciens and lawers of their jobs. ;)

Adam
11-27-02, 10:37 PM
In 1939, there was a LOT of biased press, biased against Germany. Was that press wrong?

Face it, news reporting Israel's slaughter of civilians may be biased, but it's also right. It's biased because it's right. Those things are REALLY happening, which is the cause for the bias.

aseedrain
11-27-02, 11:53 PM
A biased press does not mean the news featured is wrong. It just mean the particular news organisation is more prone to report and publish events that are consistent with its agenda.

Vortexx
11-29-02, 05:33 PM
Wew Tyler , I bet you would do a great job as a "spin doctor" for some communication department.

You and adam seem really good at using biased media to support your arguments, but at least the biased media of adam
are beefed up with facts.


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Vortexx
11-29-02, 06:19 PM
Let's see, voting is political right?

Let's vote Joeman for moderator!!! I just KNOW he/she will keep this forum clean from offbeat non political news like identity fraud etc....

BTW: if you look a bit like Camilla de Castro there is a remote change I might consider talking politics with you...
;)

Tyler
11-29-02, 10:57 PM
"You and adam seem really good at using biased media to support your arguments, but at least the biased media of adam
are beefed up with facts."

1) This was posted in direct reply to adam using a biased source. I simply wanted to illustrate how anything can be made logical through complete bias sources.

2) When some of these things are actually exact quotes (like the one by Arafat to the children); how are they not based on facts?