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truther
09-13-06, 04:24 PM
An anonymous man posted a really confusing video that has strange explanations for why people are different. The basis of it all is the Coriolis effect. I guess this explains why people seen as smart like jazz (or what he calls randomness, and having a logic value of 1). Ah, you'll see:
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Anonymous_Man_Releases_Video_To_Explain_Variabilit y_in_Nature

spidergoat
09-13-06, 04:51 PM
A great example of the failures of the American education system.

truther
09-14-06, 03:29 PM
If you mean the theory is a failure, disprove it.

If you're referring to the part where he says academia is striving for complete logic, I agree.

spidergoat
09-14-06, 04:10 PM
It's not even coherent enough to disprove.

I'll give it a shot, though. The Coriolis Effect doesn't do anything in particular to humans, since we move around and change our angle relative to the Earth's rotation.

Also, at small scales, such as that of DNA, it's effect is much weaker than other effects, such as surface tension.

truther
09-14-06, 04:40 PM
He says over a long enough amount of time the Coriolis effect influences the genes. It doesn't happen immediately. He said "around 100,000 years ago," so maybe it influences it a little in each generation. Humans moved around and then settled for a long time. Surface tension remains constant anywhere on Earth, the Coriolis effect is variable.

spidergoat
09-14-06, 04:50 PM
The Coriolis effect doesn't even effect water draining down your sink, other forces are much greater at that scale.

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html

Molecular physics
In polyatomic molecules, the molecule motion can be described by a rigid body rotation and internal vibration of atoms about their equilibrium position. As a result of the vibrations of the atoms, the atoms are in motion relative to the rotating coordinate system of the molecule. Coriolis effects will therefore be present and will cause the atoms to move in a direction perpendicular to the original oscillations. This leads to a mixing in molecular spectra between the rotational and vibrational levels. {wikipedia}
So, there is a coriolis effect on the molecular level, but it has nothing to do with the Earth's rotation.

Humans moved around and then settled for a long time.
I didn't mean we move from one place to another, I mean we move around during the day constantly, meaning that turbulence in the blood, and the compression of muscles are more dominant forces in the body. The Coriolis effect of the Earth's rotation is irrelevent.

truther
09-14-06, 05:31 PM
I didn't mean we move from one place to another, I mean we move around during the day constantly, meaning that turbulence in the blood, and the compression of muscles are more dominant forces in the body. The Coriolis effect of the Earth's rotation is irrelevent.

But what about the early stages of life? Too young to move, and perhaps fragile enough to be affected by the Coriolis effect. The Coriolis effect is due to the precession of the Earth.

spidergoat
09-14-06, 05:37 PM
No, the mother moves.
Besides, if you see the rest of the video, you realize he's a nutcase. He says the Coriolis Effect determines intelligence, with equatorial peoples being less intelligent that those farther north. There is absolutely no way a physical force influencing molecules to one side or another has effects complex enough to influence intelligence, especially since DNA is a spiral.

Also, the Coriolis Effect is due not to procession, but to rotation of the Earth (or other objects).

I think it is likely that the anonymous person in question is affected by autism.

truther
09-14-06, 06:26 PM
Well, think about before the fetus. The embryo or whatever.
I got this from a digg comment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence
According to him, this means the people up North have extended spirals that make up the brain. IQ is definitely correlated with brain size and shape.

Fraggle Rocker
09-14-06, 09:58 PM
If he calls it the "Coriolis effect" then he's no scientist. It's the "Coriolis force."

spidergoat
09-15-06, 11:39 AM
IQ has no correlation with brain size or shape. Perhaps internal structures and damage or deformities effect it, but if this were true, elephants and whales would be smarter than us.

Fraggle Rocker
09-15-06, 02:51 PM
How big are elephant and whale brains? They don't have the huge distorted crania that we do to accommodate oversize brains. Their young are born at the same stage of development as other herbivores (cetaceans are now counted as a suborder of artiodactyls) in order to keep up with the life they have to live, rather than having woefully underdeveloped brains to squeeze through the birth canal like humans. Remember that larger animals need proportionally more brain cells to control somatic systems.

We have two advantages that work in synergy with our intelligence: prehensile appendages and language. Whales lack the former and elephants the latter, yet they each do amazingly well with the one they have. For all we know they may have great untapped intelligence but no way to manifest it.

francois
09-15-06, 02:56 PM
IQ has no correlation with brain size or shape.

Educate yourself:IQ and brain size (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_and_intelligence).

Ogmios
09-17-06, 09:22 AM
This guy (on the video) is insane. Not as in "medical insanity", but in how he assimilates data without any need for proof, apart from his own keen sense of discovery.

As such it seems his theory is more like discovering a new constant (like the golden cut or something), which is present in several things.

truther
09-21-06, 02:01 PM
I've made a summary of his points:

The Coriolis effect is responsible for variability in nature by slowly "spinning" nature over time. The degree of the spin is according to its latitude.
Everything has a "logic rate" that is defined by the degree of the spin.
The rate is the average of the genetic makeup, making female humans less variable due to two X chromosomes.
With the logic rate is an illogic rate defined by L = 1/i.
Logic goes one way, illogic goes the other, and the overlapping vectors result in randomness.
One spiral represents logic and the other spiral represents illogic. These form the brain, face, and body of humans.
The amount of brain activity within specific sections of the spiral is according to its rate.
There's a bijection between the brain and the face.
Each loop of the spiral contains another spiral whose size is according to the rate.
Log base r of (l-i)^1/2 = theta/pi is for hair whorl spirals; having a logic rate > Phi means counter-clockwise spin.
The rate is variable; people with a rate > Phi become less logical over a lifetime.
Logical also means order, deduction, memory, repetition, focus, specialization, and predictability.
A rate of 1 means disorder, randomness, chaos, attention deficit, and unpredictability.
At Phi, the ideal balance between order and randomness, is creativity, discovery, and technology.
Less than 1 is emotional disturbance.
Subjectivity follows the formula l+d = 2*Phi, where l is the personal rate and d is the desire.

spidergoat
09-21-06, 02:42 PM
That is meaningless.

truther
10-03-06, 05:45 PM
New development..
Someone has applied his recursion of spirals statement to draw the human body.
Here's four Phi spirals:
http://xs307.xs.to/xs307/06401/recursion.GIF
The biggest spiral converges at the head, the second converges at the penis, the third converges at the heart, the fourth converges at the belly button.
Here the body parts are colored and the legs are somehow added:
http://xs307.xs.to/xs307/06401/colorlegs.GIF
Color key:
Purple - expected lines.
Blue - outlines the body. Lats, arms, and butt.
Red dot - shoulder and thigh joints.
Pink - lungs.
Green - heart.
Red - collar bone and bottom of rib cage.
Orange - balls.
Light blue - penis.
It's interesting how the arm and knee spans are drawn from the spirals.
Here's eight spirals:
http://xs307.xs.to/xs307/06401/eightspirals.GIF
And cleaned up:
http://xs107.xs.to/xs107/06402/done.gif
These drawings are based on Phi, which is not the "rate" the majority of humans have. So what? This is an explanation for all those correlations scientists have found and all those stereotypes we've kept to ourselves.
There's also a dominant side to each of these spirals. The heart is the most obvious it seems. The counter-clockwise-spinning side is dominant for this spiral. This makes the left side of the heart bigger than the right and the right lung bigger than the left. And that, my friends, is why Africans are more likely to have left ventricular hypertrophy. And a billion other correlations.

truther
11-06-06, 01:57 AM
I'll explain it in Layman's terms, how I see it.
Nature is getting spun at degrees that differ by latitude. A lot of spin makes things long. That's it!

The most blatantly obvious evidence that the Coriolis effect affects nature was found recently.
Although not exactly what he said, the Coriolis effect affects phenotypic plasticity.
The evidence is the shape of the eye. It can be too long, which causes nearsightedness, or too short, which causes farsightedness. Statistics show nearsightedness is greater the more northern children live and farsightedness is greater the more southern children live.

Billy T
11-06-06, 04:31 AM
If he calls it the "Coriolis effect" then he's no scientist. It's the "Coriolis force."No "Coriolis effect" is the much better term. If it were a force, rather than the effect of a rotating coordinate system then:
(1) it would exist* in a non-rotating coordinate system.
and
(2) there would be an "equal and opposite" reaction force.

The simple truth is that it is NOT a force.
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*More accurately stated: exist in all but one non-inertial non-rotating (pure translation) coordinate systems. - It is always possible to "transform away" any force in some linearly accelerating coordinate system. - For example when falling in a gravity field, in your accelerating frame, the force of gravity is "transformed away." Except for this special accelerating frame, any real force will be found to be non-zero in ALL inertial and all but one linearly accelerating reference frames. The Coriolis "force" is not present even in that exceptional one!

Nikelodeon
11-06-06, 04:39 AM
The simple truth is that it is NOT a force.
I was taught to call it an inertial force or apparrent force.

Billy T
11-06-06, 04:47 AM
I was taught to call it an inertial force or apparrent force.I am concerned with what you understand - call it what every you like. Coriolis "force" does not obey the three laws of Newton that basically define what is a force. Call it a "rose" if you like - anything but "force" as that tends to make people think it is a force.