What better way to send IAC out of here than with a poll to analyze what effect he has had here with his endless banter and one liners?

Isn't there already something like this in the "Probable Farewell from Ice Age Civilizations" thread?

No.

Yes. Before his posts, despite MattMarr and duendy, I really did not consider that a person could believe that the Bible was a literal account meant to be taken at face value, or that a person could dismiss mountains of evidence. I stand corrected.

I now believe the Earth isn't millions of years old. I think he's right about everything :C

what's facinating it this obsession with IAC. It must be flattering to some extent to have dozens of thread just for being a scientist's irratant.

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M*W: No, IAC hasn't changed any of my major beliefs with his posts, but is that the purpose of posting here... to change one's major beliefs?

Sometimes we need to look beyond the obvious failings of a person. Even though I criticized him a lot, I see IAC as an lonely individual who probably had very little contact with the outside world. Sciforums was probably a place where he could come to 'socialize' and, albeit, didn't do a very good job of it. I think he meant no harm. Some people are socially inept. In many cases, they were never taught by their parents how to act in public. I was socially retarded growing up myself. I didn't fit in anywhere, so I didn't try. You wouldn't know that today, because I'm so outspoken. There is hope for people to learn, and even be comfortable with themselves and others.

If everyone, including myself, who is a nuisance were banned, there would be no sciforums. Granted, IAC wasted a lot of space and time, but I think he just wanted to be wanted and needed. Sometimes we need to accept people as they are, not how we would want them to be. He knew the rules, but I don't think he was breaking them on purpose. I think that was how he knew to respond and that he was not intentionally being a nuisance. He was annoying but not harmful to anyone in any way. Surely, he wouldn't have been able to convince anyone of his beliefs, but there are members here who actually liked IAC. After all, IAC is human being, as we all are. We all make mistakes, including some mods.

I now regret complaining about IAC. I know how he feels being rejected, and I'm sorry about that. I can't honestly say I regret the banning of everyone who has been banned, but there is a difference between a mean-spirited person and a hapless one. IAC is not mean-spirited, just a little quirky... but who isn't? I, for one, offer this plea on behalf of IAC's unbanning and return to member status on sciforums.

Respectfully submitted,

~ Medicine*Woman

Very respectful Medicine Woman, I concur in whole.

Ah! I didn't know he'd been banned, I thought he was afraid of being banned, what did he get banned for?

trolling.

he is banned forever?


peace.

No, just until the rapture.

ahh not long then.

peace.

The problem with IAC is that he doesn't debate, he simply evades. I, along with many others, posted arguments against one of his theories and instead of giving an intelligent, adequate response he responds with bullshit like "Ooga Booga," "hehehe," "Git 'ur dun," and other useless comments.

People spend time presenting a solid argument only to get a lame, non-responsive comment from IAC. It is not only disrespectful, but insulting as well.

St. Augustine was a great Christian. He believed the world was not round. So there you go, sometimes being "saved" doesn't mean you know everything (and clearly IAC doesn't).

Please, those of you who have had a major belief changed, explain to us why you have changed that belief and what that belief was exactly.

John99, what major beliefs have you changed as a result of IAC?
Darksidzz, you now believe in a young earth. What is the most compelling argument IAC has given to convince you of this fact?
Saquist, what major beliefs have changed in you?

It seems like a lot of long time members are being banned lately. What's the deal?

Dear All,

I hope all is well.

first of all i am majorly annoyed that again i have missed out on the action and did not see the events unfold of IAC banning.

I dont actually undertsand why he was banned though, I mainly conversed with him on the members, world events/politics and free thoguhts forums and to a lesser extent the relgion type forums and never once has he been rude or impolite or out of order. yes his manner of posts was very frustrating, as he always used to try and derail a thread and aks me questions about the prophet Muhammed and conquering by the swrod etc.. But he nevr was rude or out of order. to my regret i remember at least once when i went off on one at him and fire a whole laod of abuse at him, but again he did not rise to the occasion.

he was irritating but never was he really that bad, i dont even know why he got all the infractions he did, cos to me he was polite enoguh but just talk nonsense (IMO) having sauid that he did from time to time come up with things which made a bit of sense.

i have looked on the banned list and plazma actually did the deed, it would be nice to know what the event was which finally triggered his banning.

A link to the thread would be most welcome if anyone has it.

And links to any threads where he has warranted an infraction.


Why the hell i miss all the excitment, its unfair.

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take it ez
zak

It seems like a lot of long time members are being banned lately. What's the deal?

Not a lot. Actually, only one long-term member I can think of: Dr Lou Natic.

IceAgeCivilisations has been banned too, but he wasn't here for long.

Prior to that, Singularity was banned. He took to deleting all of his posts on the forum, as well as insulting other members.

Apart from that, I can't really think of anybody of consequence who has been banned in the last couple of months.

The fact remains that 7 individuals have voted "yes" to the poll. It is highly unlikely that other members have had such a significant effect on others' ontologies, the OP's bigoted smokescreen of attempted character assassination notwithstanding.

IAC used demeaning and evasive tactics on this site throughout his entire stay.
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anybody that has debated samcdkey will tell you she is notorious for the very same behavior.

anybody that has debated samcdkey will tell you she is notorious for the very same behavior.

Hi Leo,

I hope all is going well in your no smoking mission.

As for the abvoe, i think we all suffer from this trait to either a larger or lesser extent, of course i have to include myself as a user of this tactic. I usually use it to buy time, when i am getting emotional, so i can formulate an arguement with more cohersion, at a later point.

i do always try to get back to peoples questions though.

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take it ez
zak

As for the abvoe, i think we all suffer from this trait to either a larger or lesser extent, of course i have to include myself as a user of this tactic.
ah sam, what can one say about her?
my relationship with her is really strange.
the people that don't really know the story may think i hate her.
nothing could be further from the truth.
i have her IM handle and her email address.
i communicate with her quite often on personal matters.
strange ay?

i've gotten infractions for what i've said to her on the board.
each one stemming from her "love" of america.

hi sam! :)

ah sam, what can one say about her?
my relationship with her is really strange.
the people that don't really know the story may think i hate her.
nothing could be further from the truth.
i have her IM handle and her email address.
i communicate with her quite often on personal matters.
strange ay?

i've gotten infractions for what i've said to her on the board.
each one stemming from her "love" of america.

hi sam! :)

hi Leo,

i did not think you hate Sam

Just saying that i think we are all user of the deflection tactic.

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Take it ez
zak

ah sam, what can one say about her?
my relationship with her is really strange.
the people that don't really know the story may think i hate her.
nothing could be further from the truth.
i have her IM handle and her email address.
i communicate with her quite often on personal matters.
strange ay?

i've gotten infractions for what i've said to her on the board.
each one stemming from her "love" of america.

hi sam! :)

I see I shall have to shorten your leash ;) :D

I'm not saying that IAC should have been banned for life. Nor I do I think he should have. I'm just noting the lack of contribution he has made to this site. It's true that IAC is by far not the only one who insults every so often, but the problem with him is that his insults, 99% of the time, are not accompanied by sound arguments for his case. Also, 99% of his posts (literally, look him up) are one line or less, and 90% of them usually contain no information.

Funny how Nutter, John99, Redefine, and other Christians have voted for IAC even though they were Christians before IAC. Hmmmmmmmm...

P.S. - Telling people to google something is not an argument (by the way, look up syngameons and see how many results you get, LOL!).

P.S. - Telling people to google something or look it up themselves is not an argument (by the way, look up syngameons and see how many results you get, LOL!).

Actually I looked up the scientific definition of syngameon in the scientific literature. And I posted it on the encyclopedia. That said, he could just repeat his nonsense ad nauseum.

http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Syngameon

Syngameons are clusters that comprise several morphospecies, i.e., "the sum total of species or semispecies linked by frequent or occasional hybridization in nature".


references

Mol Biol Evol. 2001 18(7):1315-29.

Not a lot. Actually, only one long-term member I can think of: Dr Lou Natic.

IceAgeCivilisations has been banned too, but he wasn't here for long.

Prior to that, Singularity was banned. He took to deleting all of his posts on the forum, as well as insulting other members.

Apart from that, I can't really think of anybody of consequence who has been banned in the last couple of months.
Singularity I can understand.

But I was thinking of Dr Lou and Ice. It seems like he's been around for a while, and he was generally entertaining.

I guess we've also recently lost Genji due to his being too cheap to get internet access at home. Also, I haven't seen any posts from Prince James or Swivel in quite a while.

Before coming to SciForums, I thought that people would accept a logical answer, if given the choice.

Jesus Christ was I wrong.

IceAgeCivilizations saved my eternal soul, and taught me a valuable lesson about the pyramid's relationship to the circumference of the Earth. Also, there's no such thing as a species.

IceAgeCivilisations, while perhaps being wrong about everything, won my respect by being the token Christationist. Science needs the barefoot monk to check its otherwise unbridled hubris with the occasional utterance of sic transit gloria mundi.

IceAgeCivilisations, while perhaps being wrong about everything, won my respect by being the token Christationist. Science needs the barefoot monk to check its otherwise unbridled hubris with the occasional utterance of sic transit gloria mundi.

What is a "Christationist?"

Christ•ation•ist (n). 1. A neologism created by Lord Hillyer (Oxon) on 02 June MMVII which describes Christian creationists, especially those who are ex post facto creationists after becoming Christian, and who pretend that their creationism is the innocent conclusion of a dispassionate exploration of the scientific literature. Also: christ•ation; christ•ation•ism

IceAgeCivilisations, while perhaps being wrong about everything, won my respect by being the token Christationist. Science needs the barefoot monk to check its otherwise unbridled hubris with the occasional utterance of sic transit gloria mundi.

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M*W: IAC became sciforum's scapegoat. Granted, he didn't know science, and he wasn't familiar with christianity, his own religion, but he wasn't a bad guy. He had a problem expressing himself. Like IAC said, he "learned a lot" on sciforums. Maybe he did. Maybe it wasn't science nor the truth about his own religion. Maybe in some small way he forced himself to communicate with others which may have been the hardest thing he's ever done. Maybe he did learn a lot while he was here. Maybe now he's retreated deeply back into his shell. I feel for him. Who knows? Maybe sciforums was his only connection with the outside world.

If the whole world was PC, it would be a mighty boring place. True, we don't have to deal everyday with racists, idiots, religious fanatics and such in our personal lives, but on sciforums we have seen examples of all kinds of weird people, myself included. None of us are "normal" folks or maybe we wouldn't even be here.

Sciforums has become an elite forum for moderators. It's now a game of THEM vs US. We are at their mercy for every word we say. Sciforums is becoming a PC forum where everyone will be PC with everyone else, because the moderators won't allow any differences between us that might hint of being non-PC. How boring!!!

In a way, being non-PC on a forum such as this gives the rest of us an opportunity to deal with racism, and some of the other sensitive issues that we normally wouldn't have to deal with.

I would ask the moderators to sincerely rethink their recent blitzkreig on certain members by allowing them to return if they want.

Ordinarily, I would never plead for the return of a christian (i.e. IAC), because, hey, that's one less religious argument I'll be getting into. But in this case, I believe IAC was judged harshly and punished unfairly for the crimes he allegedly committed.

I think a forum should have a few nutters, just to lighten things up, you do
not have to take them seriously, some of their ideas give me a good laugh.