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duendy

04-22-06, 06:37 AM

Duendy you accuse anyone and everyone who doesnt agree with your 'theory' as being fascist, very loose use of the term indeed. You then attack those who approach your gibberish with humor or irony. Why don't you give any space for your critics? If your argument is sound then you wouldn't be so very defensive. YOU ARE A HYSTERIC!!! And a source of entertainment when you are being such a Nudnik!
lucysnow. the one who is constatnly spouting gibberish in tis thread is you. YEs...you
all you do is ridicule, and bring completely ziltcxh to the debate. THAT aint debate silly girl
you imagin A crowd is simply luvin lucysnows ever so clever expose of deundy's argument. but u just a fool. and haven't EVEn bothers to look at tew threads have you. accept from one to take a quote and apply it without even seemingly understanding what its about

luuuuucysnow. whhyyy dear is you attracted here. thremust be some glimmer of hope you can get over your sillyness and begin not gibbering....? yea? no??

duendy

04-22-06, 06:42 AM

and errr let me QUICKLY add. i am not prepared to suffer your foolihness, and intended derailment of my thread which i take VER serious inDEED. so an more nonesense i will ignore. and you'll be in an empty auditorium. to i'm sure in your HEAD yu will see a audience that is in AWE of your vast intelligence....

so. about the THREAD's subject---9/11. this ca be about the actual event and cvert planning, and also including possible occultic signature

okay. begin......

Alejandro

04-22-06, 11:04 AM

ahhhh i thought you had a sense of humor- from now on my post will be completely serious :p

Communist Hamster

04-22-06, 11:55 AM

You haven't replied to my previous post, duendy.

duendy

04-22-06, 04:36 PM

Duendy, my friends GCSE examination number is 4128. This could be meaningless, or it could be four times one hundred and twenty eight, which is 512. This is the amount of RAM he had missing in his PC when he installed an extra gigabyte of RAM.

Is this numerology, or is it reading too much into meaningless numbers? Do the exam board have a grudge against him, and are they giving him a secret warning? No, they are not. It's just a number.
you mean THIS one commie ham, which yo were to lazy to find and foreward?

what the heck is i supposed to SAY to it?........yer trying to be clever. an attitude i find irritating.

where do i begin with such an attitude?

hae you even read the latest link i gave.........hmmmmmm? cause it really dpoesn' seem like it to get such a daft question, quite frankly.

if you have and do you'll see its more than numerology. itinvolves other forms of symbolism, and correspondeences which are symbolic.

let me ak you sometin. and tis goes for oters 'ridiculers' about tis subject: are you frightened of lookin too close at it. is it BENEATH yu to put your pride to the side and just give it some lookin at?

duendy

04-22-06, 04:39 PM

ahhhh i thought you had a sense of humor- from now on my post will be completely serious :p
alejandro.....? say something intelligent. i dare you!

Alejandro

04-23-06, 03:21 AM

something intelligent.

numbers hold us back. theyre overrated.

shaman_

04-23-06, 03:47 AM

duendy

04-23-06, 05:09 AM

something intelligent.

numbers hold us back. theyre overrated.
no....MUST try harder.

duendy

04-23-06, 05:35 AM

A couple of points duendy..

I don't know if Charlie Sheen is really the voice of clarity here. In an article in todays papers his ex wife said he "regularly loses hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling binges and is fuelled by paranoia and a cocktail of anti-depressants". Of course you can't believe everything you read but this may be true.

me))))))hahahaahahaha....do you know...in the MIDST of readingthat article about Seen i already was seeing you lot comin on about it!
also. do you not see it as a coincidence it being reported about so soon after his involvement in questions regarding 9/11? ALSO....just say it IS true--and you only have her word--whyyy ould this mean he cannot bring up questions about 9/11...?? he is not on his own as i'm sure you know. His private life has nothing to do with me. i am sure YO have shit you wouldn't lik being reported about , hey shaman_??

Again you wouldn't explain the significance of all the numbers. You refused very politely this time though.

me)))))that was that time! now i am mataphorically slappin you...'take THAT ...and THAT!'..nowi AM PUSHIN YOUR HEAD INTO ICE COLD WATER...hehe
Look shaman. as usualy your playin wit this. This is enormously! intrigueing. as aN ADULT you can either keep goin on bout rubbish which you are OR really dive in and explore about it. have you read the second link i give in this thread??.....dont say yes or no. READ it. read it slow, and allow yourself an openmind to investigate it. but if yer in denial, ridiculing, fearful, you cant can you?

Numerology is a psuedoscience. Just because it ends in 'ology' dies not necessarily mean it is based on logic.

me)))))))em, we are not now IN sudo science pal. thats down there. heh.....
whatever you think of numerology, it exists. like any subject if it's there and you want to find out about it, you HAVE to look at it dont yoi. now listen--take the Freemasons. they have degrees of intitiation. there overt top number is 33%. they dont just pluck that number out of air. for T H E M it etc. means something. dig? THAT you explore. not your personal shiit. put that aside and try and get into where they are coming from. for ages now you've been piddlin about. expecting ME to do your research fo you. DO it!!

The bible using numerolgy does not make it any more plausible.

me)))))again. your jumpin the gun. FIRST find out about it. how the people who DO use this shit tick. never mind whether its 'plausible' for now.

With numerlogy you can find significance in nearly anything. It is even easier when you start subtracting/adding numbers within the dates. Pearl Harbour was bombed on December the 7th. Does that mean the occult were involved?
well errrrm 7/7/7 is the London bombings---ie., we have '7/7/2005' and when you add 2+5 yo got 7! ---mutiples of same 'important' numbers are apparently more powerful symbol for these people.

This is a massive subject. it bascially involves a secret fukin cult running the show, which involves running education, which involves DUMBING us down. which involves creating a generalized mindset whic is AVERSE to all this 'nonesense' about the 'occult' cause we lost all of that shit years back in the 'Enlightenment' bla bla.....understand? THIS is your main ontention shaman_ your main 'fear'. you cannot understan how tis could pssibly be do you? its too farout. yo imagin that culture in its essence is strictly rationalistic, mechanistic. so any talk of 'religiousy-spiritual' symbol stuff is anathema to your whole notions of being a modern being, right?

well like i said---and i dont know if i'm right about my little analysis of where ithink you are at--put that aside and just research about it. IFyou was going to write a book, for example, and you were going to devote a chapter about the Illuminati. you cant get all emotional and refuse can you. you would HAVE to seriously understand about it so as to communicate.

that's the spirit!

thedevilsreject

04-23-06, 05:52 AM

duendy this numerology shit is bollocks and you know it. this is pseudoscience material not free thoughts and a total waste of time

Communist Hamster

04-23-06, 05:58 AM

Ah, how convenient duedny. Because you failed the mandatory education system, that makes you smarter than us, because you avoided the brainwashing.

duendy

04-23-06, 07:27 AM

duendy this numerology shit is bollocks and you know it. this is pseudoscience material not free thoughts and a total waste of time
and thats what you call debateis it....?

yes dud,this IS 'FREE thoughts' and i spose yo got right tocome up with that shoddy reaction. but it is't ADEQUATE it's like someone coin on with a debate about pollution, and me replying 'ohhh shooey'

its on THAT level

presnt an intelligent debate or i will ignore your silliness

duendy

04-23-06, 07:34 AM

Ah, how convenient duedny. Because you failed the mandatory education system, that makes you smarter than us, because you avoided the brainwashing.
well, rrrr yeah, spose i did. i hated laothed detested school. saw thru the whole game quickly. THATS what I cals intelligence...!!
then at 15 was introduced to LDD which shuck off acculturized mechanistic which STILl seeps in. cause you may reject school, but that fierce shit can still hook you Unconsciously. an example of tis: themany sci-lovers at these forums who preach on and on how they have lft religin bhind yet are Unonscious that all of that plays out in theirassumptions and visions.

now before youu tink i mean i am better-then-you. like some guru. i ont. but i obviously challenge you about this dont i.

i see you are still fearful of lookin to close aout this Illuminiati rthing.

so let me ask you et al HYPOTHETICALLY---and i will be verified in my assumption about your fear, IF you dont play wit me here--IF there is some truth in whati say--about tehe Illiminati. HOW would finding this out affect how you feel about yourself in this world. Hypothetically?

Lucysnow

04-23-06, 07:52 AM

I did bother to read the link but it was all BULLSHIT. You obviously believe any old shite you find on the web that drives your paranoid imagination. Now if, hypothetically, you believe all this rubbish then I suggest you put on your black cloak (dont forget your magic amulet and green tea leaves) find, penetrate and destroy the evil empire...either that or have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.

Robert Anton Wilson would laugh his guts out reading your posts. Cosmic Trigger and all that jazz

http://deoxy.org/raw.htm

"Reality is what you can get away with" MUhaahahaha

Dumb dumb

spuriousmonkey

04-23-06, 08:00 AM

funny link.

cosmic schmuck law

The Cosmic Schmuck law holds that [1] the more often you suspect you may be thinking or acting like a Cosmic Schmuck, the less of a Cosmic Schmuck you will become, year by year, and [2] if you never suspect you might think or act like a Cosmic Schmuck, you will remain a Cosmic Schmuck for life.

Communist Hamster

04-23-06, 09:20 AM

well, rrrr yeah, spose i did. i hated laothed detested school. saw thru the whole game quickly. THATS what I cals intelligence...!!
then at 15 was introduced to LDD which shuck off acculturized mechanistic which STILl seeps in. cause you may reject school, but that fierce shit can still hook you Unconsciously. an example of tis: themany sci-lovers at these forums who preach on and on how they have lft religin bhind yet are Unonscious that all of that plays out in theirassumptions and visions.

now before youu tink i mean i am better-then-you. like some guru. i ont. but i obviously challenge you about this dont i.

i see you are still fearful of lookin to close aout this Illuminiati rthing.

so let me ask you et al HYPOTHETICALLY---and i will be verified in my assumption about your fear, IF you dont play wit me here--IF there is some truth in whati say--about tehe Illiminati. HOW would finding this out affect how you feel about yourself in this world. Hypothetically?
Well, If I found out that the Illuminati did rule the world, then I would either
A) Continue living as I am now, because it seems alright to me (my current situation that is, I realise quite a lot of the rest of the world sucks)
or
B) Attempt to join them, and change their attitude towards 3rd world nations, and let them [the 3rd world nations] prosper.

Since you already know that the Illuminati rule the world duendy, what are you doing? Apparently you are educating people about its existence, but are you in agreement with it? Do you, outside of SciForums, take steps against what you percieve to be the Illuminati?

duendy

04-23-06, 09:23 AM

I did bother to read the link but it was all BULLSHIT.

me))hear tis gross sister you'll. shesay 'ALL'. always be wary of clever dick who ay 'all'

You obviously believe any old shite you find on the web that drives your paranoid imagination.

me))))ahhhhh her fave. ad hom. continue

Now if, hypothetically, you believe all this rubbish then I suggest you put on your black cloak (dont forget your magic amulet and green tea leaves) find, penetrate and destroy the evil empire...either that or have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.

me)))look how she evaded my question. jest cant answer it can you you sweet talkin mama yu...hah

Robert Anton Wilson would laugh his guts out reading your posts. Cosmic Trigger and all that jazz

me))))))have read all his books. and i dont think you have to say such as that. phony!

http://deoxy.org/raw.htm

"Reality is what you can get away with" MUhaahahaha

Dumb dumb
yeahhh? and YOU is dumb-ed DOWN big style.
any more crap from you i ...may ignore

duendy

04-23-06, 09:27 AM

funny link.

cosmic schmuck law
errr, its not meant to BE funny. and yer stoopid cosmic schmuck law picvce anint shown up in reply box. so whooose a scmhuck now den?....and a klutz.
sorry about reply. but i've yet to read ANYting intelligent from any of YA so-called clear thinkers.

duendy

04-23-06, 09:33 AM

Well, If I found out that the Illuminati did rule the world, then I would either
A) Continue living as I am now, because it seems alright to me (my current situation that is, I realise quite a lot of the rest of the world sucks)

me))well first at fukin LEAST you had guts to nwer the question...unlike SOME (looks very disdainfullyabove!)....but shit. so you say that as long as you feel your arse is right, rest can go to hell. sorry. THA sucks. but unfortunately has been indoctrinated in to allthe 'educated'. 'i'm alright jack-ism'

or
B) Attempt to join them, and change their attitude towards 3rd world nations, and let them [the 3rd world nations] prosper.

me))))totally naive!! and shows you haven't explored their evils yet.

Since you already know that the Illuminati rule the world duendy, what are you doing? Apparently you are educating people about its existence, but are you in agreement with it? Do you, outside of SciForums, take steps against what you percieve to be the Illuminati?
i am talkin her aren't i? and puttin up wit losts of silly flak.
not only in this subject i also expse the overall patriarchy which includes the Illuminati, AND the patriarchal orthodoxy, AND scientific materialism.

what do you want from me??>

shaman_

04-23-06, 10:09 AM

me))))))hahahaahahaha....do you know...in the MIDST of readingthat article about Seen i already was seeing you lot comin on about it!
also. do you not see it as a coincidence it being reported about so soon after his involvement in questions regarding 9/11? ALSO....just say it IS true--and you only have her word--whyyy ould this mean he cannot bring up questions about 9/11...?? he is not on his own as i'm sure you know. His private life has nothing to do with me. i am sure YO have shit you wouldn't lik being reported about , hey shaman_??
His comments on 911 were weeks ago. I don't think the article today had anything to do with that. The press love articles about celebrities fighting. As I said it may not be true but Charlie Sheen has a record of that sort of behaviour. The comments about paranoia and drugs were the key part. I don't think it is very important to the topic though and I'm not really that interested in discrediting Mr Sheen any further.

me)))))that was that time! now i am mataphorically slappin you...'take THAT ...and THAT!'..nowi AM PUSHIN YOUR HEAD INTO ICE COLD WATER...hehe
Look shaman. as usualy your playin wit this. This is enormously! intrigueing. as aN ADULT you can either keep goin on bout rubbish which you are OR really dive in and explore about it. have you read the second link i give in this thread??.....dont say yes or no. READ it. read it slow, and allow yourself an openmind to investigate it. but if yer in denial, ridiculing, fearful, you cant can you?I read most of it. The London 7/7 bombings right? The author is trying very hard to link anything associated with the bombings to mysterious numbers. for example:
"The No 30 bus
Thirteen people were killed when a bomb exploded on the number 30 bus from London’s Hackney to Marble Arch
Coincidence is it, the numbers 13 & 30?"

On one of the buses 13 people died so therefore the occult was involved. No one knew how many were going to be on that bus! Apparently 30 is a mysterious number too so the occult was involved. hmm

How many numbers are associated with the occult? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12,13.. 30 ect ect? It seems that most numbers are significant to me.

We are reading the same thing and coming to different conclusions duendy.

me)))))))em, we are not now IN sudo science pal. thats down there. heh.....
whatever you think of numerology, it exists. like any subject if it's there and you want to find out about it, you HAVE to look at it dont yoi. now listen--take the Freemasons. they have degrees of intitiation. there overt top number is 33%. they dont just pluck that number out of air. for T H E M it etc. means something. dig? THAT you explore. not your personal shiit. put that aside and try and get into where they are coming from. for ages now you've been piddlin about. expecting ME to do your research fo you. DO it!!You make very confident claims duendy and I ask you to back them up or at least explain them further. You have asked the same of me many times.
me)))))again. your jumpin the gun. FIRST find out about it. how the people who DO use this shit tick. never mind whether its 'plausible' for now.I have researched numerolgy and found it to be rubbish. Yes many people do believe in it though. Many probably still live by it but how can you tell the difference between significant and important numbers and someone just making random links? As demonstrated already in this thread, it is easy to make any number seem special.

well errrrm 7/7/7 is the London bombings---ie., we have '7/7/2005' and when you add 2+5 yo got 7! ---mutiples of same 'important' numbers are apparently more powerful symbol for these people.

This is a massive subject. it bascially involves a secret fukin cult running the show, which involves running education, which involves DUMBING us down. which involves creating a generalized mindset whic is AVERSE to all this 'nonesense' about the 'occult' cause we lost all of that shit years back in the 'Enlightenment' bla bla.....understand? THIS is your main ontention shaman_ your main 'fear'. you cannot understan how tis could pssibly be do you? its too farout. yo imagin that culture in its essence is strictly rationalistic, mechanistic. so any talk of 'religiousy-spiritual' symbol stuff is anathema to your whole notions of being a modern being, right?

well like i said---and i dont know if i'm right about my little analysis of where ithink you are at--put that aside and just research about it. IFyou was going to write a book, for example, and you were going to devote a chapter about the Illuminati. you cant get all emotional and refuse can you. you would HAVE to seriously understand about it so as to communicate.

that's the spirit!
I fear zealous, muslim extremists much more than I fear the illuminati.

I have yet to see any reason to believe in a secret organisation behind most of the major events in recent history. The numerology does nothing to change this while there is plenty of evidence to to suggest that religious fundamentalists were behind these attacks.

duendy

04-23-06, 11:31 AM

His comments on 911 were weeks ago. I don't think the article today had anything to do with that. The press love articles about celebrities fighting. As I said it may not be true but Charlie Sheen has a record of that sort of behaviour. The comments about paranoia and drugs were the key part. I don't think it is very important to the topic though and I'm not really that interested in discrediting Mr Sheen any further.

me)))yes agreed. tis is superfluous tho YOu brought it up. however i greatly admire Charlie. moving on then.....

I read most of it. The London 7/7 bombings right? The author is trying very hard to link anything associated with the bombings to mysterious numbers. for example:
"The No 30 bus
Thirteen people were killed when a bomb exploded on the number 30 bus from London’s Hackney to Marble Arch
Coincidence is it, the numbers 13 & 30?"

me))))well that is a small part of his analysis. ...also you got to look at other stuff where the reporting has no connection with the ocultic clues. for example it being reported on mainstrem mdeia that te CCTC caeras were not working on the bus. and a bus driver got in touch with an alternaitie news source telling them that an unkown contractor came and spent 20 hours wit te bus...... what was he doing? planting the bomb??
also apparently according to source the 30 bus was the only one diverted after intital bomb blasts in underground
you dont mention the SYMBOLIC significance of te buidling the innocent vitims blood wa plattered over. the Tavistock Inti.etc etc. ie., your look at al this half arsedly, already having made up your mind!

On one of the buses 13 people died so therefore the occult was involved. No one knew how many were going to be on that bus! Apparently 30 is a mysterious number too so the occult was involved. hmm

me)))not a 'mysterious number' a 'SYMBOLIC' one. we are looking AT symbology in a critical way. examining it....yeAH??

How many numbers are associated with the occult? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12,13.. 30 ect ect? It seems that most numbers are significant to me.

me)))again yo show me then you haven't LOOKED. there are signioficant numbers, and multiples of same number that are symbolically significant for them. by 'them' i mean 'front group'--the Freemasons, and secretly the Illuminati

We are reading the same thing and coming to different conclusions duendy.

me))))))yer not KIDDIN!

You make very confident claims duendy and I ask you to back them up or at least explain them further. You have asked the same of me many times.
I have researched numerolgy and found it to be rubbish. Yes many people do believe in it though. Many probably still live by it but how can you tell the difference between significant and important numbers and someone just making random links? As demonstrated already in this thread, it is easy to make any number seem special.

me)))errrrm just let me try and make it clear/ comminications tough enough.
i am NOT tryin to turn you onto the occult. and have you worshipping numbers etc..... is this crystal clear??????
NO, we are simply EXAMINING this cult's use of SYMBOLOGY.

I fear zealous, muslim extremists much more than I fear the illuminati.

me)))well, that is the outcome this cult wants dude......errr duh?

I have yet to see any reason to believe in a secret organisation behind most of the major events in recent history. The numerology does nothing to change this while there is plenty of evidence to to suggest that religious fundamentalists were behind these attacks.
so you keep saying. but your ....'argument' what fraction there is, is not convincing.

Alejandro

04-23-06, 02:39 PM

Duendy,

you dont replace an engine cause of a bad spark plug.

duendy

04-23-06, 05:55 PM

Duendy,

you dont replace an engine cause of a bad spark plug.
i am lookin at the DRIVER!

shaman_

04-24-06, 04:43 AM

me)))yes agreed. tis is superfluous tho YOu brought it up. however i greatly admire Charlie. moving on then.....You choose your heroes poorly.

well that is a small part of his analysis... I guess you dismiss the parts you don't like.

Here is another small part. Excuse the paraphrasing. On a map you can see that there were explosions between Kings Cross station and Russell Square. The crown and the cross is a masonic symbol so ding! the illuminati! Get it, kings cross - crown and cross. Also the other station was Russell square, the square is a freemason symbolic tool (!?) and the Charles Taze Russell was the founder of the Jehovah's witnesses so ding! the Illuminati!

huh?

One more. There is a picture with blood supposedly on the walls and door of Tavistock Clinic. This is the analysis - "The "Passover" is just one example of blood being used in ritual where doorposts and lintels are daubed with sacrificial blood.
Though lamb’s blood is used for passover ritual and not human blood. That said, couldn’t innocent humans purposely led to the slaughter be described as lambs?"

Is this another link to the illuminati? The author is trying desperately to make anything seem significant.

I am not going to read this article any further duendy because it is rubbish.

me)))errrrm just let me try and make it clear/ comminications tough enough.
i am NOT tryin to turn you onto the occult. and have you worshipping numbers etc..... is this crystal clear??????
NO, we are simply EXAMINING this cult's use of SYMBOLOGY. Ok but you are trying to demonstrate that a secret organisation is involved by the numerology around the event. This is also what I am criticising.

me)))well, that is the outcome this cult wants dude......errr duh?My comment there was in response to your suggestion that I, and others, wont accept the illuminati because of fear.

duendy

04-24-06, 06:42 AM

You choose your heroes poorly.

-me))))he's not my heroe fool!

I guess you dismiss the parts you don't like.

me))))like what. you donteve know how to debate. you just picked one thing out of a contextual analysis. crap

Here is another small part. Excuse the paraphrasing. On a map you can see that there were explosions between Kings Cross station and Russell Square. The crown and the cross is a masonic symbol so ding! the illuminati! Get it, kings cross - crown and cross. Also the other station was Russell square, the square is a freemason symbolic tool (!?) and the Charles Taze Russell was the founder of the Jehovah's witnesses so ding! the Illuminati!

me))))ding off

huh?

me))i said ding off....

One more. There is a picture with blood supposedly on the walls and door of Tavistock Clinic. This is the analysis - "The "Passover" is just one example of blood being used in ritual where doorposts and lintels are daubed with sacrificial blood.
Though lamb’s blood is used for passover ritual and not human blood. That said, couldn’t innocent humans purposely led to the slaughter be described as lambs?"

me))))so whatis it you are sayin.....?

Is this another link to the illuminati? The author is trying desperately to make anything seem significant.

me))))no i's just your too bleedin thicxk to see anything. cant be arsed with you no mo dude.

I am not going to read this article any further duendy because it is rubbish.

me)))so dont. what ya doin here then...?

Ok but you are trying to demonstrate that a secret organisation is involved by the numerology around the event. This is also what I am criticising.

me))))in a extreeeeemly limited way. hardly a critique in my opinion!
more like an axe to grind.

My comment there was in response to your suggestion that I, and others, wont accept the illuminati because of fear.

accept what ya want. i am here to discuss tings in an intelligent way. not suffer idiots with a chip on teir shoulders. see ya

bet he's back!

Lucysnow

04-24-06, 08:23 AM

duendy

04-24-06, 09:05 AM

So okay place me on ignore but there is one question I and another have asked which is what do you do in your everyday life to counter the 'illuminati'? You havent answered nor offered a single suggestion. Outside of trying to get others to believe your 'theory' and downloading links with spurious information what do you ACTUALLY do about it? And if we were to believe you what then? What do you suggest? You are a 'believer' so you should be very active indeed. I mean the future of the world depends on it and all right? Shouldnt you be out banging a brick against their secret headquarters?

me)))))first orrrf. i never USE the 'ignore' button. if i wanna ignore a trol i just do...depending
secondly, i am not a 'believer' i'm an explorer. muh more flexible.
all i've got from 99% of peple here is fear/denial masqueradin as clever-arsed pseudo-witty reaction.
what do i propose to DO if TRU? silly naive question. it is more starting N O W to LOOK and quit burying yer 'clever' head in the sand. LOOK and research about it, yeah??

YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION,
WELL, YOU KNOW,
WE ALL WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
YOU TELL ME THAT IT'S EVOLUTION,
WELL, YOU KNOW,
WE ALL WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD

YOU SAY YOU GOT A REAL SOLUTION,
WELL, YOU KNOW,
WE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE THE PLAN.
a waaaay to solution is to quit trying to be so smart and begin to look AT what the problem may be. Obviously.

spuriousmonkey

04-24-06, 09:11 AM

Unfortunately the origin of the problem is only obvious to you and you do not share. I'll bet you are a member of the illuminati because you keep your secrets so well.

duendy

04-24-06, 09:20 AM

Unfortunately the origin of the problem is only obvious to you and you do not share. I'll bet you are a member of the illuminati because you keep your secrets so well.
dnt be soft. i have offered a very insightful link---last one, which took me by surpise and even forewarded it as soon as ihad read it. i am NOT anal retentative and love to share.
However, shaman_etc has been hounding me for similar. all i can say is i shae theoryofrelativity's 'RANT' when she said she hates people who ask questionsand are to godamn lazy to search it on their own computer.
Listen up spuriousmonkey--closer closer! i am sure i have told you before, i only HAVE a very limited digital et top box. so why thehell can I find shit and yet those here wit vastloy more advanced comps fkin CAN'T. now THERE's a mystery, init?

there IS one site i found after i began researching post 7/7. i blew me away, and i admit i Am reluctant to put it out. why? cause i liked the power of me finding it myself, sos i was hoping others wouod at last try. search and you will find

you know Spurious. this shit is in your FACE and you deny it. wake the fk UP yeah?

spuriousmonkey

04-24-06, 09:21 AM

7/7...that must have been a lucky day for someone.

john smith

04-24-06, 09:36 AM

I think your right there!

Thats duendy' birthday, so 7/7 actually brought us his fantastic, fanatical arguments.

What a pleasure.

Lucysnow

04-24-06, 09:39 AM

Here you should really like this guy Deundy:

"...information is the source of all wealth"

I hand you an interview with Robert Anton Wilson

http://www.mavericksofthemind.com/raw-int.htm

What you don't see is that the WHOLE THING IS A SPOOF!! I admire Wilson for his humor and the fact that he can make money from other people's paranoid fixations. Does he 'believe' what he says? He doesn't believe anything at all. Maybe you should email him to find out? Unlike yourself at least he presumes to KNOW the illuminati from personal experience. His doctorate in psychology makes him exceptional at fucking with peoples mind.

The introduction:

RobertAnton Wilson earned his doctorate in psychology from Hawthorn University. From 1966-1971 he was Associate Editor of Playboy, and since then he has written over 26 popular books. He is perhaps best known for Illuminatus! a classic science fiction trilogy which he co-authored with Robert Shea. His Schroedinger's Cat trilogy was called "the most scientific of all science-fiction novels " by New Scientist, and has been reprinted in many languages. In the area of social philosophy Bob wrote such books as Cosmic Trigger, Prometheus Rising, and The New Inquisition He also wrote the introduction to my first book Brainchild. Bob has appeared as a stand-up comic at many clubs around the world, and regularly teaches seminars at New Age centers such as the Esalen Institute. Bob 's poetry has been widely published and in 1 986 he was a guest of the Norwegian government at the Oslo International Poetry Festival.

Bob has also starred in collaboration with the Golden Horde on a Punk Rock record entitled The Chocolate Biscuit Conspiracy, and a comedy record called Secrets of Power. Bob's play Wilhelm Reich in Hell was performed at the Edmund Burke Theatre in Dublin in 1986, and many other theatres. He presently lives in Santa Cruz, where he continues to write, and co-edit the futurist journal Trajectories

Now go and read the link.

Lucysnow

04-24-06, 09:48 AM

Lucysnow

04-24-06, 10:02 AM

Some excerpts from an interview with Malaclypse the Younger by THE GREATER METROPOLITAN YORBA LINDA HERALD-NEWS-SUN-TRIBUNE-JOURNAL-DISPATCH-POST AND SAN FRANCISCO DISCORDIAN SOCIETY CABAL BULLETIN AND INTERGALACTIC REPORT & POPE POOP.
GREATER POOP: Are you really serious or what?
MAL-2: Sometimes I take humor seriously. Sometimes I take seriousness humorously. Either way it is irrelevant.

GP: Maybe you are just crazy.
M2: Indeed! But do not reject these teaching as false because I am crazy. The reason that I am crazy is because they are true.

GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

GP: Why do you deal with so many negatives?
M2: To dissolve them.
GP: Will you develop that point?
M2: No.

GP: Is there an essential meaning behind POEE?
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!

shaman_

04-24-06, 10:06 AM

me))))he's not my heroe fool!Yet you admire him greatly. Why? Hes had a relatively easy life.

me))))like what. you donteve know how to debate. you just picked one thing out of a contextual analysis. crapI picked three points duendy - the first three that I found and they were nonsense. You clearly have no problem with this. You are not going to let anything get in the way of your delusion. If anyone disagrees with you or points out how stupid your sources are you accuse them of not knowing how to debate :rolleyes:

me))))so whatis it you are sayin.....?That was a quote from your source. Pay attention.

me))))no i's just your too bleedin thicxk to see anything. cant be arsed with you no mo dude.Ah yes master debater duendy. Showing how its done. Insult anyone who doesn't agree with you...

me))))in a extreeeeemly limited way. hardly a critique in my opinion!
more like an axe to grind.Just because you don't like what I say you accuse me of being limited. I read your source and what I saw was rubbish. No axe to grind.

accept what ya want. i am here to discuss tings in an intelligent way. not suffer idiots with a chip on teir shoulders. see yaAn intelligent way. hmmm. :D

If you cannot handle any opposition to your beliefs you probably shouldn't start threads like this.

duendy

04-24-06, 10:46 AM

And just in case there is any misunderstanding Wilson's main interest is in CHAOS and FUN. Which is why he says:

"Pope John XXIV threw out six hundred saints on the grounds that they never existed. They threw out Santa Claus and a whole bunch of these Irish saints. The Discordian Society accepted them on the grounds that we don't care whether these saints are real or not. If we like them, we'll accept them. And since these saints were without a home, being thrown out of the Catholic church, we accepted them. In the same way we accepted the Illuminati, too, since nobody else wants them."

Discordianism and the Discordian Society

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3115/dishest.htm

http://www.kbuxton.com/discordia/

You have no humor Duendy you just swallow all the muck whole without even the slightest hint of irony. Its self-indulgent now stop it.

Luccy luuuucy LUcy. how olds yi girrrl. i was readin old Wilson where you was probs a little gal, if not ...not even a twinkle.
GLAD you've put a link to his interview in tis thread. i dont agree wit all he says but LOVE his free thinking ways.
now, notice--didn't catch date of interview...? , notice no mention of '9/11'......? it was THA THA that that got ME interested in tudying bout all tis. not RAW, etd etc. T H A T. and myyy sense of homour eats you and spits you out luuucy lucy. only thing is, you NEED one to KNOW one...!

duendy

04-24-06, 10:52 AM

7/7...that must have been a lucky day for someone.
quite revealing how you mean. you see its not MEANT to be 'unlucky' lucky'---it is a n occultic blood sacrfice, and a blatant signal to other Illuminati round the globe

hey spurious. let me ask you a quesy---is you good at stats??

what percentage of people at tis forum would you say are:

a) even INTERESTED in all this?

be)))are convinced by what i, and others, are pointing out?

duendy

04-24-06, 10:54 AM

I think your right there!

Thats duendy' birthday, so 7/7 actually brought us his fantastic, fanatical arguments.

What a pleasure.
for whom? its plain daft is what it IS. my birthday ISn't 7/7. what ya on abouuut??

Lucysnow

04-24-06, 10:55 AM

Duendy believing in everything is equivalent to beliving in nothing. The date? Check the link all info should be there. Anyway I think you have missed my point entirely...and probably Wilson's as well.

Ok, I'll try. Exactly what is it you determined from his interview? I mean what do you think Wilson is really 'getting at'? Here is what I think one of his most important statements:

" I find the universe so staggering that I just don't have any faith in my ability to grasp it. I don't think the human stomach can eat everything, and I'm not quite sure my mind can understand everything, so I don't pretend that it can."

So I ask are you critical of your own information?

duendy

04-24-06, 11:03 AM

Yet you admire him greatly. Why? Hes had a relatively easy life.

me))))thought you wanted to move on from tis aspect. sos why do you continue with it....? i admire him for having GUTS to speak out what he FEELS!

I picked three points duendy - the first three that I found and they were nonsense. You clearly have no problem with this. You are not going to let anything get in the way of your delusion.

me)))ok. i am gonnaplay role as your tutor:
cOme back when you have something worthwhile to show me. till then, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

If anyone disagrees with you or points out how stupid your sources are you accuse them of not knowing how to debate :rolleyes:

me)))))as usual, and i is sorry to hurt your feelings. you dont SAY anything. you dont know how t be critica;. for example you could have asked me what about that article am I critical . cause you didn't have the intitative i aint gonna say till i feels like it now. shucks. yer too slow. all them video games......

That was a quote from your source. Pay attention.

Ah yes master debater duendy. Showing how its done. Insult anyone who doesn't agree with you...

me))youuu insult me because of your lack of adequate material and then blame MEfor not responding to your truly pathetic 'analysis'. its a wonder yer gettin areply to THIS

Just because you don't like what I say you accuse me of being limited. I read your source and what I saw was rubbish. No axe to grind.

me)))what doees 'rubbish' mean? jeeezuz. can you imagine some film critic, book reviewer coming back with 'its rubbish'???well could YA? they wouldn'y last long wud they?

An intelligent way. hmmm. :D

If you cannot handle any opposition to your beliefs you probably shouldn't start threads like this.
wehat frigin opposition. tat's thepoint/ you aint got none. bet yo aint even read it. orrr your very veeery lazy. moslt likely latter!

spuriousmonkey

04-24-06, 11:05 AM

wehat frigin opposition. tat's thepoint/ you aint got none. bet yo aint even read it. orrr your very veeery lazy. moslt likely latter!

The illuminati took your spellchecker.

duendy

04-24-06, 11:07 AM

The illuminati took your spellchecker.
haHA frikkin FAMOUS. go nowt to say, go on about me spelling.
jeez yur predictable you lot.

spuriousmonkey

04-24-06, 11:21 AM

Most people would have gotten the hint after the first time.

It's fucking rude not even to try to make a proper sentence

Did you get it?

duendy

04-24-06, 11:29 AM

Most people would have gotten the hint after the first time.

It's fucking rude not even to try to make a proper sentence

Did you get it?
yes i 'got it' spuriousmonkey. yo got bigger text than i can do......

AND that despite the truly TRULY serious subject of this thread, what RATHER gets you passions activated is FUKIN spellin!!!

spuriousmonkey

04-24-06, 11:49 AM

At least spelling is real.

LeeDa

04-24-06, 12:56 PM

Hehe

spidergoat

04-24-06, 01:16 PM

If we stop shopping then the TERRORISTS HAVE WON!

leopold99

04-24-06, 01:32 PM

AND that despite the truly TRULY serious subject of this thread,
man what a hipocrite
you have some gall to accuse someone of not being truly serious after you attempted to explain how numerology is connected with 911

duendy

04-24-06, 04:43 PM

man what a hipocrite
you have some gall to accuse someone of not being truly serious after you attempted to explain how numerology is connected with 911
you'll are merely reacting. wasting space for prper debate about thhisextraordinarily important subject. you are members of a science forum, YET havvn't the initiative to be serious about this at all. yer got ya heads so far in the sand your feet is all i can seestickin out!
you have no argument.....?

shaman_

04-24-06, 10:34 PM

me)))ok. i am gonnaplay role as your tutor:
cOme back when you have something worthwhile to show me. till then, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!My knowledge of the illuminati doesn't make your "insightful" article about the 7/7 bombings any less stupid.

me)))))as usual, and i is sorry to hurt your feelings. you dont SAY anything. you dont know how t be critica;. for example you could have asked me what about that article am I critical . I don't say anything that you want to hear so you attack me. Then you lecture about 'intelligent' debate. You are a hypocrite.

cause you didn't have the intitative i aint gonna say till i feels like it now. shucks. yer too slow. all them video games......Damn I missed my chance to hear duendy's criticism. Oh well. I will just have to get on with my life...

me))youuu insult me because of your lack of adequate material and then blame MEfor not responding to your truly pathetic 'analysis'. its a wonder yer gettin areply to THISI feel blessed.

Actually I haven't insulted you, I have been sarcastic. Perhaps you take my criticisms as an insult.

Also, I haven't blamed you for not responding to anything. ? What are you talking about?

me)))what doees 'rubbish' mean? jeeezuz. can you imagine some film critic, book reviewer coming back with 'its rubbish'???well could YA? they wouldn'y last long wud they?Now you are resorting to attacking my vocabulary?! Pathetic duendy. Coming from you it's hilarious though.

Perhaps I will take you a bit more seriously when you learn to construct a sentence properly.

So have you got any more articles that link the occult to 9/11, 7/7 ect? The last one wasn't very good. :D

Communist Hamster

04-25-06, 05:26 AM

duendy, all of this would be very good if it weren't for the fact that the illuminati don't exist.

Lucysnow

04-25-06, 06:14 AM

Yes I have read Wilson (cosmic trigger being my favorite). You may have read him but you dont understand what you read which is why you would write something like this:

" you are members of a science forum, YET havvn't the initiative to be serious about this at all."

If you understood Wilson at all you would realize that he writes 'science fiction' and goofs on myths, conspiracies etc. The joke (especially wilson's joke) IS ON YOU BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IT!!

Dumb dumb

duendy

04-25-06, 06:17 AM

and 'dumber' which is YO and the rest of the space-wasters zappin silly posts to this thread lately.
i am NOT impressed at ALL. in fact you despair me...

Lucysnow

04-25-06, 06:23 AM

duendy

04-25-06, 06:29 AM

The dialogue between Greater Poop and Malaclypse the Younger is something you read and then say 'see that IS the point' but you give no discourse on what you think the 'point' is and then you accuse others of not making a valid argument. Remember take FIVE TONS OF FLAX. You know what flax is used for don't you?

You are a believer without ever KNOWING anything. You are a whiner who offers no solutions and you are a paranoid who feels attacked anytime anyone is critical of you. So go on reading fiction and mistaking it for reality we'll send flowers to the psyche unit.

Good Luck
loook you soft gal. i HAVE put out links and explanations--prolifically so. all i have heard from you is utter tosh. you haven'tgot a clue have you? so why pretend.
accept you are in deep denial about this subject. hence the hostility, ridicule, and persistence.
Not one iota of evidence that i have presented have you even bothered to analyze. all you do wis whitter whitter whitter believing yourself to be soooome smart ARSE. hun, believvvvve it. you are soooo N.O.T.
now, pleeeease. unless you got someting worthwhile to add to this thread. go A-WAY!

Lucysnow

04-25-06, 06:36 AM

If you cannot come up with a decent thread offering something 'significant' for others to deal with then perhaps you shouldn't create one. Don't get your knickers in a twist because every member can tell your a NUTTER and your supposed 'subject matter' utter NONSENSE, GOOBBLY-GOOP, The Greater Master of POOP.

duendy

04-25-06, 09:30 AM

A Brief History of Numerology
http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Numerology/a_brief_history_of_numerology.htm

spuriousmonkey

04-25-06, 09:33 AM

I could have posted that specific link to show how bogus numerology is actually. Does this mean you changed your mind regarding numerology?

duendy

04-25-06, 09:36 AM

I could have posted that specific link to show how bogus numerology is actually. Does this mean you changed your mind regarding numerology?
you and your same-minded collegeues are makin complete UTTER fools of yourselfs. quit now!

leopold99

04-25-06, 09:39 AM

you and your same-minded collegeues are makin complete UTTER fools of yourselfs. quit now!
the master of irony strikes again!

i still can't get over you applying numerology to the events of 911

duendy

04-25-06, 10:31 AM

the master of irony strikes again!

i still can't get over you applying numerology to the events of 911
oh jeeesus. they take turns wit this nonesense. wonder when it'll end and an intelligent discussion can take place??

if all your brains were dynamite they wouldn't blow off someone's hat off

i mean seriously...i am wondering what your ages are. not that someone young HAS to be as 'childish' as you all are revealing yourselves. but THI subject particularly is makin you'll behave incredibly stupid

you dont relate to the actual topic, but just keep coming back coming back with emotional shit that has more to do with YOUR stuff, and not what we hould be talkin about. wich IS analyzing thepossbilty of a secret cult is using numerology as CODE

i am not trying to turn you ONto numerology...if thats what ya hysterical reactions are about.....am also not trying to say that usingit IS magic

what any intelligent exploration would do IF there were any intelligent participants is to LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE

but i have a...feeeling, you will just continue making fools of yourselves.

phlogistician

04-25-06, 10:34 AM

A Brief History of Numerology
http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Numerology/a_brief_history_of_numerology.htm

Jesus, I remember schoolgirls adding up numerical values of people's names to see how much they 'loved' each other. Numerology is such childish bullshit duendy. Grow up.

spuriousmonkey

04-25-06, 10:36 AM

I'm 36. In ancient Azerbutania this was the number of the mighty otter. Not to be messed with. In hebrew text 36 is the place where always...i repeat ALWAYS the letter 'L' is placed. It's revealing.

And nostradamus predicted that a man of 36 would ridicule 911 which according to him referred to a cataclysmic event involving two towering structures far west of mesopolioania. Towering structures that would be hit with fire from the east!!!!!

Coincidence? No way. Study...read... learn...

duendy

04-25-06, 10:36 AM

Jesus, I remember schoolgirls adding up numerical values of people's names to see how much they 'loved' each other. Numerology is such childish bullshit duendy. Grow up.
this is pricelss. guess whose joined the chain of fools....?
well of course!

phlogistician

04-25-06, 10:42 AM

this is pricelss. guess whose joined the chain of fools....?
well of course!

We're fools because we don't buy your numerology bullshit?

Maybe if you'd actually gone to school duendy, you'd recall little girls doing exactly as I described. Were there attempts at matchmaking true because they were backed by Numerology? ;-) Why didn't we all marry childhood sweethearts if it was the case!

Grow up, duendy.

duendy

04-25-06, 10:47 AM

We're fools because we don't buy your numerology bullshit?

Maybe if you'd actually gone to school duendy, you'd recall little girls doing exactly as I described. Were there attempts at matchmaking true because they were backed by Numerology? ;-) Why didn't we all marry childhood sweethearts if it was the case!

Grow up, duendy.
listen you silly silly pathetic clown.
whart does it say in that link?
do i HAVE to understand for you.......?
dont even know why i am bothering with you and your fellow-clowns i really dont. you are beyond bleedin help. either that or ARE the friggin Illuminati and are trying to do pay ops on me..

what des it say in that link besides mention GEMETRIA, which is the bit your going on about. hah. who famous and significant for the influence ofscience does it mention?

well????! (all class looks at phlo. balancin on two chair legs chewin gum, with silly smirk on his face)

spuriousmonkey

04-25-06, 10:54 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4941744.stm

3/25/2006, 7/7 and 9/11 ... coincidence? I think not

study learn.

jax0509

04-25-06, 11:09 AM

spuriousmonkey

04-25-06, 11:16 AM

It's all in the numbers.

Study..learn.

Communist Hamster

04-25-06, 11:32 AM

duendy

04-25-06, 11:36 AM

exactly the same thing is going to happen to this thread as duendy's previous one. can people not debate without trading personal insults. and spurious are you actually suggesting that the tamil tigers had anything to do with 9/11?
haha...exACTLY. that's what they want! i can flame just like them. but a trying to keep this thread sensible

duendy

04-25-06, 11:48 AM

duendy, if the Illuminati are this secret society in control of the world, presumably they need to remain secret? If this is so, then why do they broadcast their presence with such easy to decode number sequences?
AT LAST!!!!!!!! a sensible QUESTION instead of the relentless drivvle. at last commie baby

OK/ i asked old psuriousmnkey a quesytion bout '1000 years ago' . and he completely ignored it as he has done all else regarding subject of thread.... i asked him rthis, and open it up to you et al. using statistics:

a)how many people do you think--at this forum--are even INTERESTED in this subject?

and, b) how many who at this forum do you think take this subject SERIOUSLY?
(using percentages. well?)

so tose questions i am asking you.
now generally. you are asking why do they use easy to work out symbolic code IF they want to be secret?
let me also ask YOU. ifit ISso 'easy'. how comeseveryones not talking about it. how come mass media doesn't mention it?

ie., tese people are arrogantly blatant. they are masters of deception. they KNOW how predictable people can be. But tey ALS Do use a code--the one we SHOULDbe invistigating--to signal to fellow Illuminati round tew world. when to make money before an atrocity is going to hapen, ad reportin 'progress' of their dream of a 'new world order'

i am hpping you understand thepower they have. how it infiltrates all major powerful instititutions,and that as you ponder this your freedoms are quickly disappearing...?!

draqon

04-25-06, 11:52 AM

AT LAST!!!!!!!! a sensible QUESTION instead of the relentless drivvle. at last commie baby

OK/ i asked old psuriousmnkey a quesytion bout '1000 years ago' . and he completely ignored it as he has done all else regarding subject of thread.... i asked him rthis, and open it up to you et al. using statistics:

a)how many people do you think--at this forum--are even INTERESTED in this subject?

and, b) how many who at this forum do you think take this subject SERIOUSLY?
(using percentages. well?)

so tose questions i am asking you.
now generally. you are asking why do they use easy to work out symbolic code IF they want to be secret?
let me also ask YOU. ifit ISso 'easy'. how comeseveryones not talking about it. how come mass media doesn't mention it?

ie., tese people are arrogantly blatant. they are masters of deception. they KNOW how predictable people can be. But tey ALS Do use a code--the one we SHOULDbe invistigating--to signal to fellow Illuminati round tew world. when to make money before an atrocity is going to hapen, ad reportin 'progress' of their dream of a 'new world order'

i am hpping you understand thepower they have. how it infiltrates all major powerful instititutions,and that as you ponder this your freedoms are quickly disappearing...?!

commie baby...i like that...

duendy

04-25-06, 12:10 PM

EVEn though i may sometimes seem hard. i also am aware of the fear and denial aout this surreal affair. HOW, the looking into it MUST question your very place in this culture...because, IF true, it will mean you havebeen visciously and slyly lied to since the beginning.
This is why you should steel yourself and get over whatever blocks you got that's stopping you researching this. just so you can not be a manipulated fool no mo

in order to checkout the background check this:
The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, and the Illuminati http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment/

Alejandro

04-25-06, 02:04 PM

duendy

04-25-06, 04:29 PM

what i dont understand is why all these conspiracy 911 evil america illuminati web sites dont disappear or the purveyors meet w\ mysterious accidents????

after all their easy to contact, how else will you buy their books and dvd's?

recently i was readin a 911 conspiracy crap site and it was more like a comedy, it was filled with childlike assumptions. i wont post the link cause why embarass the person....but i wont be buying thir dvd either.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

but of COURSE you wonta name it dear Alejandro. whyyy that'd be too much effort wouldn't it? to actually involve your self in grown up debate. put yourself on zee line and critially ANALYZE what you ridicule...lie down and take a rest why dont you!

john smith

04-26-06, 04:51 AM

for whom? its plain daft is what it IS. my birthday ISn't 7/7. what ya on abouuut??

What?

Whats that you say?

Try your hand at some english grammer, then, when you have a relavant point people will be more inclined to pay serious attention, as it is you spell like a 6 year old girl, and have the ideology of one.

Its not hard, spell check is easy to access.

duendy

04-26-06, 05:44 AM

What?

Whats that you say?

Try your hand at some english grammer, then, when you have a relavant point people will be more inclined to pay serious attention, as it is you spell like a 6 year old girl, and have the ideology of one.

Its not hard, spell check is easy to access.

"RELEVANT" fool!

phlogistician

04-26-06, 05:53 AM

"RELEVANT" fool!

Wow, well done, you picked up a schoolkid on his spelling. The irony is his spelling and grammar are far, far, superior to yours.

You should have let that one lie, duendy, you really should, as you really aren't qualified to criticise.

duendy

04-26-06, 06:05 AM

Wow, well done, you picked up a schoolkid on his spelling. The irony is his spelling and grammar are far, far, superior to yours.

You should have let that one lie, duendy, you really should, as you really aren't qualified to criticise.
defending schoolkids now hey phlo. desperate are we.
did you read the fukin article or what, softlad??

phlogistician

04-26-06, 07:14 AM

defending schoolkids now hey phlo. desperate are we.

He's 17, and he has a far superior intellect, and far superior spelling and grammar to you. I don't need to defend him, he carries himself rather well. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of YOU pulling him up for a single spelling error. If we pulled YOU up for every spelling or grammatical mistake you made, it would be a full time job!

did you read the fukin article or what, softlad??

Yeah, appeal to authority bollocks. Drop 'Pythagoras' into the prose, and suddenly numerology has as much proof and application as Pythagoras' theorem, does it? No, it doesn't. Numerology is still bullshit, and you are still a loon who can't spell.

Lucysnow

04-26-06, 07:38 AM

If you understand and see what others cannot and have all the information at your disposal then why dont you paste all the sequences on a board, break the code and then using the logic of numbers pre-empt the next disastor by calling MI5 or MI6? Oh, ok those agencies may be in on it. Okay forget about the CIA, CNN, BBC and MTV because I am sure they are all involved, but surely if you break the code eventually someone will believe you and then you can assassinate the relevant key strategists of the whole cabal thing and then become a hero like the guy in the Manchurian Candidate. Stop mucking about with us because our minds arent open to the possibilitites, go out there and stop it! Then we will all eat crow and see you were right afterall. Educating others isnt your forte but action might be. What are you doing in your everyday life to stop us from turning into transhumanist eugenically altered cyborgs? Simply telling us about it wont help because many find the notion appealing, especially with the image of 7 of 9 on their minds. What are you doing to stop the illuminati? If you keep talking about it many here will want to be on the side of power and join them (I cant get out of it myself since I paid my yearly fee and was forced to prove allegiance by performing lewd acts with Master lucifer) What are you doing to save the earth before all the sunflowers die? Monsanto would be pissed but mother nature would be saved.

What have you been doing to stop what you KNOW is going on? Since you believe you are now morally responsible to do something about it. So what do you do?

I have asked this of you several times as well as others, could you please tell us. This would be especially helpful for those who believe like yourself but fear public ridicule, by sharing what you do in daily life to stop this would give them the strength to act in kind . Actually I think using a blow horn to get the publics attention is dangerous for you, I mean arent you afraid that they will come and take you away for torture and re-education, washing your mind of all significant memory?

duendy

04-26-06, 08:19 AM

He's 17, and he has a far superior intellect, and far superior spelling and grammar to you. I don't need to defend him, he carries himself rather well. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of YOU pulling him up for a single spelling error. If we pulled YOU up for every spelling or grammatical mistake you made, it would be a full time job!

me)))no of yourse. dimwit like you didn't get my reposte. seen!

Yeah, appeal to authority bollocks. Drop 'Pythagoras' into the prose, and suddenly numerology has as much proof and application as Pythagoras' theorem, does it? No, it doesn't. Numerology is still bullshit, and you are still a loon who can't spell.
no you dimwit, that last last but ONE link i gave to try and educate you idiots who relentless try and ...errr challenge? i MEANT the latest one, titled 'The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, and The Illuminati'...
keep up! i knooooow its tuff, dimwit. but try huh??

duendy

04-26-06, 08:25 AM

spuriousmonkey

04-26-06, 08:44 AM

get off off YOUR fat arse lucy snowyou useless mocker, and do something.
what i do HERE is not nothing, which is agreat deal more than wat you and your daft friends do.
but...but, like yo hint, you propbably wil conform to such evil power weilders as the Illuminati anyhow. hence your being party to discouraging looking to close.

hmmmm. wonder if we will EVER see the day when you put out someting even HALF intelligent at these forums....hohum

Another personal attack to a reasonable post?

phlogistician

04-26-06, 08:51 AM

OK duendy, I read the link. What about it?

duendy

04-26-06, 08:56 AM

Another personal attack to a reasonable post?
reasonable...? hah, you wouldn' know reason if it hit yu on the head

duendy

04-26-06, 08:57 AM

OK duendy, I read the link. What about it?
..now what....? errr, turn round 3 times and stick yer fingers up yer nose

dimwit

duendy

04-26-06, 09:01 AM

seriously, and i am not jst being BLINDLY bitchy like you'll are, but my GOD. you --put toGETHER...have NO understanding or insighty whatsoever. totally dumbed down are you. itstruly sad to witness. and i mean that!
NOTHING will get through to you, because you do NOT know how to understand , with what that term really means

spuriousmonkey

04-26-06, 09:05 AM

Usually if nobody else but yourself can see something you have to ask yourself if there is something wrong with you. But you don't apparently.

shaman_

04-26-06, 09:13 AM

oh jeeesus. they take turns wit this nonesense. wonder when it'll end and an intelligent discussion can take place??

... i am here to discuss tings in an intelligent way..

but a trying to keep this thread sensible

Duendy keeping the thread sensible with intelligent discussion.
..now what....? errr, turn round 3 times and stick yer fingers up yer nose

dimwit

duendy

04-26-06, 09:14 AM

Usually if nobody else but yourself can see something you have to ask yourself if there is something wrong with you. But you don't apparently.
silly comment---as expected from you....you dodger. it AINT just me. regarding the occultic issue it aint just me--obviously. others also have been analyzing about this for longer than i have been.
and regarding te anti-offical story about 9/11 the numbers are VERY prolific. what is notabole about THI 'SCI- forums tho is te complete and utter ignorance and apathy. itis fukin frightnin, but not urpising if we dig that science devotees propbably are more prone to ignore-ane regading understanding the actua larger context science operates in, and came FROM

ohhhh juat admit it. your a dimwit. have you even READ that very informative essay i linked you too

not a soddin mention hey?

typical. all you know is ad hom.
whys you keep coming BAK here if this is such a daft subject for you?

phlogistician

04-26-06, 09:19 AM

What is relevant to 9/11 in that linked article, duendy? What does that article prove?

john smith

04-26-06, 09:21 AM

Ok duendy, whats your point?

So far in your replies i've seen no purpose what-so-ever.

So tell me, whats your point?

Lucysnow

04-26-06, 09:36 AM

Why are you being so hostile Duendy? I am already doing something with my life and I hold myself accountable for beliefs held and try to live by them and even have the ability to be critical of them. When I was unhappy with Bush, Iraq and the whole business I worked for Indymedia as a means of contributing to the 'cause' but generally Indymedia preaches to the converted. You want to preach or teach or have people searching for things they neither care about nor believe, fair enough but generally a waste of time like bible thumpers trying to stop people on the steet in an attempt to push their pamphlets and convert. Now I asked you a question which is what do you do in your everyday life to counter the masonic, illuminati, satanic, transhumanist conspiracy outside of filling sciforums with these links? I receive no answer from you. Che didn't just wear green and denounce the evils of capitalism he went in the trenches used the skills he had as a doctor to help the cause and fought in REAL battles. Now I don't expect you to blow up the world bank or something but surely your knowledge of said conspiracy has changed your life hasn't it? I mean if the entire world and all of humanity is at stake then I would hope you are doing more than trying to enlighten a bunch of teenagers who would rather discuss the Simpsons or an adult population who is more interested in useful information and practical ways of changing the world (Ie: becoming involved with politics *canvasing, voting, joining electoral campaigns etc* or environmentalists growing organic produce and joining green peace etc* or whatever). People dont need to know about the illuminati because it doesnt make a difference if they know about it. Get it? Why don't you admit that you dont do anything about the illuminati outside of ranting because you are powerless? You don't know the members (but I bet they know you!). You don't know their infrastructure, you dont know their headquarters and because it is so secret YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THEIR PLANS!! All your information is second hand anyway and the ones who are putting out said information are MAKING MONEY, something the illuminati, masonic, satanic so and so's would find very pleasing. Now that being said chances are you will read, watch tv, get together with your friends, go to work or receive your welfare check, eat, shit, marry, procreate and die like everyone else and when you do the illuminati, alien, masonic, satanic power structure will continue on and those who don't know you will continue to think you a loon.

Is there are real economic, idealogical, political struggle going on to control the world and its resources? Yes, but you wont be able to deal with those real life issues and complexities as long as you are reading silly though humorous creative accounts of one fictitious conspiracy after the other. If you are curious about the Masons why don't you just join one and find out what they are about? Lot's of people do and you can look them up in the phone book. If you are interested in the power structure and media read Noam Chomsky. If you don't want to take the medication that would put your disheveled mind back together then don't. We have compassion for paranoid schizphrenics.

By the way Satan says hello. He's got his eye on you!!! Now I'm jealous

Jessiec

04-26-06, 09:46 AM

*applause*^

Damn you're one crazy dude duendy

duendy

04-26-06, 10:32 AM

Ok duendy, whats your point?

So far in your replies i've seen no purpose what-so-ever.

So tell me, whats your point?
YO sonny jim...wake UP!!! thepoint is, Illuminati/Globalists use of symbology....

as to what YOUR point is here, that i DON't know...

duendy

04-26-06, 10:42 AM

*applause*^

Damn you're one crazy dude duendy
bet your a silly mate of hers. lsten tell yo mate that IF this subject is so of no interest, and pales in comparison wit the Simpsons, then whys she--yer mate--keep comin BACK?? does tis make sense to yo.....?(puzzled expression.....)

i mean listen. i am a member of tewse forums right. and i look at threads and some seem So godamn boring i dpont een look at first post....yes. YET, for someone So not into all tis shit, she wont keep afukin WAY...hehe

ad i'd like to arsk you and her. you dumbed down...gals. did 9/11 have nofukin effecton you whatsoever. are you quite prapred to just go on being silly conformist sheeples. not questionig. not lookin and mo interested in the Simpsons

and errr 'funny' you should mention tat cartoon show put on by SKY/////achem. they did a survey on the street, asking pople if they know what their Five Freedoms were, they did NOT. but DIDknow such crap like who the characters in the Simpsons were and oter celebrity trash. can you DIGthat. these people totally ignoreant of the fascists taking theirfreedoms away....?????

huh can ya huh....yip i bet you CAN alright.

so: epilogue. IF tis subject bores you so. give it UP and stop wasting space wid yur silliness.

spuriousmonkey

04-26-06, 10:50 AM

YO sonny jim...wake UP!!! thepoint is, Illuminati/Globalists use of symbology....

and that is all you have?

duendy

04-26-06, 10:53 AM

and that is all you have?
go away. get a brain. come back, and well talk. till then i may just ignore anymore silly uselss eater comments....

ANNOUNCEMENT: an online mateis gonna foreward a link to do with the WTC collapse soon. this is not to errr change the subject away from the occultic symbology. but its all part and parcel of the same issue at the end of the day

ellion

04-26-06, 11:14 AM

do you want me to post the article? cause i dont know which link i willl just post the complete article, yes?

duendy

04-26-06, 11:26 AM

do you want me to post the article? cause i dont know which link i willl just post the complete article, yes?
If you will ellion can you post th article titled 'Thermite identified as Culprit of WTC collapse'--NOT the whole page--cause sometimes when threads get haevy i cant access them. can you just put the URL ADDRESS for that article

duendy

04-26-06, 11:35 AM

What is relevant to 9/11 in that linked article, duendy? What does that article prove?

hah...ratherrrr, what your QUESTIO proves is tis----you are like some fast-food EYE outlet. ie., you read. butDON'T absorb. this is what i mean by saying you don't understand. you don't. i cannot understand for you now can i..??

ellion

04-26-06, 11:40 AM

shaman_

04-26-06, 12:01 PM

hah...ratherrrr, what your QUESTIO proves is tis----you are like some fast-food EYE outlet. ie., you read. butDON'T absorb. this is what i mean by saying you don't understand. you don't. i cannot understand for you now can i..??
Just answer the question. What does the article prove?

duendy

04-26-06, 12:51 PM

-Just answer the question. What does the article prove?
have YOU read it? whats it prove for YO??

thedevilsreject

04-26-06, 12:52 PM

you still havnt answered the fucking question duendy

spuriousmonkey

04-26-06, 12:53 PM

It doesn't prove anything. It has a few pictures with a few sentences. No method, no research, no evidence. Just pics that could be anything. With a few lines of comment.

About 10 minutes of work for the average joe with 30 seconds of thought to produce a page like that.

duendy

04-26-06, 12:58 PM

you still havnt answered the fucking question duendy
one would love to have a proper comp andbe able to cut and paste relevant pssages that give background to main conTention of this thread--that secret societies STILL exist which use codic symbolic language. but one hasn't

i was depending therefore on some intelligence from you and yer frinds on reading it and ...clicking??. ...hah. some ope!

duendy

04-26-06, 03:42 PM

did you not nottice this.........how there is a worship of 'reason' by the mindsets who rebelled against the 'age of superstition'.....do i as ta bleedin SPOON feed ya?
can you not dig that the difference between YOu 'reason-worshippers' wid your mechanistic science, and te occultists is that they dp it in a moree esoteric way....STILL.....? like errrr DUH!

duendy

04-26-06, 03:44 PM

....and your silences about the link ellion kindly put in this thread--about WTC -- is conspicuous

BSFilter

04-26-06, 04:40 PM

Wow, you cant jump into this one by reading the last page.

ellion

04-26-06, 04:44 PM

you just did, hey!

duendy

04-26-06, 05:23 PM

so i've been asked 'alright...so what cha gonna DO about it'??

as thouth burying our head in te sand is gonna be safe!...implying that. cause the one askin hasjust been bosting that it means sweet fuck all. and we should all join the Discordian church and giggle about shit

but ewrrrrr. teres talk of a fukin WW3...! about an escaLATION of this skullduggery. can serial killers stop killin?

look hwat happened on 9/11. weren't you tramatized? please tell me how watchin that horror effected you? did you cage channels or what?

and ten te illegal war...based on what? lies? how many??....and do you know whats happened to all tose thousands of children wome and men in Iraq, with te weapons they use, which includes depleted uranium which is ecocidal and creates HYBRIDS of cancers, and genetic deformation of unborn babies---believe me itis horrific!!
AND is slowly killing hundreds of teir OWN soldiers...?

and your freedoms are going, as tis evil closes in all round. yet yu just make fun of it. will NOT give tis subject any serious consideration? what will it take to shake you up methinks.........???!!

Lucysnow

04-27-06, 12:48 AM

You didn't read my last post did you Duendy? If you had you wouldn't focus on the Simpsons (I was referring to sciforum teenagers). And yes I was probably more affected by 9/11 simply because I am from NY and my mother, friends etc live in NY and we could see those towers and my family knows one person who worked in the building and survived and unfortunately one who didnt. I wasnt wanking away in Manchester watching League of Gentlemen while eating fish and chips murmuring 'Oh the horror'. You know why? Because we were all too busy trying to figure out where our friends were. If you had even the slightest point to make you would have responded to the whole of my post but you can't can you? People here are simply more interested in watching how your disheveled mind works (curiosity and entertainment some probably even worry) not your stupid theory.

Now go back and address the points I have brought to your attention. YOu want a debate and I am giving you one but you cannot respond because you are lost in your own hysteria, you have no interest in facts or debate or intelligence at all.

What do you do outside of ranting and raving? I talk to people all the time who have either worked in Iraq or Afghanistan, East Timor, Rwanda, Sierra Leone and other 'hardship' countries and they are all quite informed through experience and even they dont sit around raving like lunatics about what is 'horrific' because they deal with it everyday. I presently live in a developing country that had been napalmed by the US, a country where land-mine injuries and birth defects is common enough to see everyday. The problem with you is that the 'horror' exists in your mind which has been fed by bogus sites and television. If you have an interest in these topics then I suggest you go out and Do SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT TO STOP IT. Now why is it you don't do that?

Your information doesn't serve anyone including yourself. You're a poser. A do nothing. An observer who sits in front of the tv or computer but doesn't leave their couch long enough to acutally ENGAGE. You're a poof!

duendy

04-27-06, 03:07 AM

You didn't read my last post did you Duendy?

me))))yes. but i admit i dont enjoy reading your absurd immature insightless hard-faced drivel

If you had you wouldn't focus on the Simpsons (I was referring to sciforum teenagers).

me)))))and your NOT a silly teenager...?? you surprise me!

And yes I was probably more affected by 9/11 simply because I am from NY and my mother, friends etc live in NY and we could see those towers and my family knows one person who worked in the building and survived and unfortunately one who didnt. I wasnt wanking away in Manchester watching League of Gentlemen while eating fish and chips murmuring 'Oh the horror'.

me)))see what i mean....?
IFyou HAVEbeen so affected why are you o callous and indifferent about investigating the truth?....dont reallywnat you to answer. i find you extremely offensve actually.

You know why? Because we were all too busy trying to figure out where our friends were. If you had even the slightest point to make you would have responded to the whole of my post but you can't can you? People here are simply more interested in watching how your disheveled mind works (curiosity and entertainment some probably even worry) not your stupid theory.

me))))))it isn't MY 'stupid theory' you silly girl. and it isn't stupid. wht ISstupid is YOUR stupid attitude. which seems relentless!

Now go back and address the points I have brought to your attention. YOu want a debate and I am giving you one but you cannot respond because you are lost in your own hysteria, you have no interest in facts or debate or intelligence at all.

me))))haha. oh my god. i canny work you out. ....oh yeah. a silly patronizing bitch, with no understanding whatsoever.

What do you do outside of ranting and raving? I talk to people all the time who have either worked in Iraq or Afghanistan, East Timor, Rwanda, Sierra Leone and other 'hardship' countries and they are all quite informed through experience and even they dont sit around raving like lunatics about what is 'horrific' because they deal with it everyday. I presently live in a developing country that had been napalmed by the US, a country where land-mine injuries and birth defects is common enough to see everyday. The problem with you is that the 'horror' exists in your mind which has been fed by bogus sites and television. If you have an interest in these topics then I suggest you go out and Do SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT TO STOP IT. Now why is it you don't do that?

me))))despite your CLAIM to such life experience. you have LEARNT nothing. no insight. no empathy.no courtesy. no nuthin. truly disheartening, because such life experience SHOULD.

Your information doesn't serve anyone including yourself. You're a poser. A do nothing. An observer who sits in front of the tv or computer but doesn't leave their couch long enough to acutally ENGAGE. You're a poof!

andyou are a callous, indifferent, foul mouthed, homophobic, sad, sad, person full of hate. now stop filling up my thread with your totally incompetent and irrelevant diatribes

phlogistician

04-27-06, 03:35 AM

okay here is an article with some new evidence research proof etc from paul joseph watson over at PROPOGANDA MATRIX. that sounds like a reilable source if i ever heard one.

Thermite Identified As Culprit Of WTC Collapse
Evidence mounting that cause first identified on Alex Jones Show led to towers' implosion

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/ April 24 2006

A new branch of 9/11 research claims to have identified the cause of the collapse of the twin towers. The photographic and video evidence makes a very strong case for thermite being responsible for the unprecedented implosions of steel framed reinforced buildings on September 11.

Brigham Young University physicist Professor Steven Jones told peers at a Utah meeting that, "while almost no fire, even one ignited by jet fuel, can cause structural steel to fail, the combination of thermite and sulfur "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."

continue reading at source http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2006/240406thermiteidentified.htm

Ah, duendy is dragging this one back up again eh? I already dealt with this one on another 9/11 thread. For one, the professor cited, Jones, is a physicist, not a structural engineer. his colleagues who teach structural engineering at the same University do not agree with his conclusions.

The thermite reaction produces large lumps of pig iron and aluminium oxide as products.

(see Quicktime video of thermite reaction here; http://www.ilpi.com/genchem/demo/thermite/index.html#demo )

Jones has not recovered any of either to lend credibility to his theory. In fact, all Jones has is a theory. Thermite is a very active reaction too, anyone who has seen it in school science lessons knows that it produces lots of sparks. We don't have sparking fire in _any_ video taken on 9/11. Also, if Jones claims that suplhur was also an ingredient, people would have been able to smell it's burning. Do we have any reports of people smelling sulphur? Thermite isn't a very energy dense explosive by modern standards either. So hard to conceal. Semtex, C4, or their equivalent offer a more energy dense explosion, so why would someone be baroque and use thermite?

Jones thinks that the structure of the WTC could not be brought down by fire alone. This is completely fallacious. Tens of thousands of gallons of jet fuel were set alight, with good ventilation. In tunnel fires, with only a few hundred gallons of fuel from a few vehicles, and restricted air supply, the concrete and steel structures have been compromised by conflagration. Jones needs to do more research on similar disasters before drawing conclusions. He needs some evidence before publicising his theory as anything more than just a theory, too.