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pjdude1219
01-16-08, 03:56 AM
3/4 to 4/5 of the nation think the country is going in wrong direction. this is according to the latest polls by the new york times and the washington post. not a good sign

Asguard
01-16-08, 03:57 AM
would you please back up your figures if possable

Nikelodeon
01-16-08, 04:02 AM
Damn continental drift! But can humans stop it?

Read-Only
01-16-08, 04:44 AM
3/4 to 4/5 of the nation think the country is going in wrong direction. this is according to the latest polls by the new york times and the washington post. not a good sign

Be VERY careful about polls - the questions can be formulated to produce the results the pollsters want. For example, how do they define the "wrong" direction and how do they define the "right" direction?

Do you have a list of the actual questions asked, the numbert of people surveyed and the breakdown of the responses?

pjdude1219
01-16-08, 05:05 AM
Be VERY careful about polls - the questions can be formulated to produce the results the pollsters want. For example, how do they define the "wrong" direction and how do they define the "right" direction?

Do you have a list of the actual questions asked, the numbert of people surveyed and the breakdown of the responses?

saw it on the news trying to track down the actual polls. but i believe it was asked just wrong direction right direction and left it up to the responders to define it.

Read-Only
01-16-08, 05:12 AM
saw it on the news trying to track down the actual polls. but i believe it was asked just wrong direction right direction and left it up to the responders to define it.

If that's the case then they DID in fact "load the dice." Practically everyone at any given time is going to think of things that they would like to see made better. That's just basic human nature.

Challenger78
01-16-08, 05:20 AM
Damn continental drift! But can humans stop it?

This should be interesting for you.
http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml

pjdude1219
01-16-08, 05:44 AM
http://www.pollingreport.com/politics.htm i think the second poll from the top is one of the polls. i also am going to rewatch the news show i got the poll from to make sure i got the wording of both polls right

Buffalo Roam
01-16-08, 11:39 AM
3/4 to 4/5 of the nation think the country is going in wrong direction. this is according to the latest polls by the new york times and the washington post. not a good sign


Now just what direction is the wrong direction? and just what policies do they perceive as the wrong policies.

I believe that the country is going in the wrong direction, to much of a move to bigger government, to much spending on the wrong agenda, no viable energy policy, and a whole list of other things.

But as far as the war, and that is what I think you are alluding to, yes many people are not satisfied, but in the end they want it won, and then they want us out.

Tiassa
01-16-08, 12:57 PM
Source: NYTime.com (http://www.nytimes.com/)
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/business/16leonhardt.html
Title: "A Revival of 1992’s Glum Mood", by David Leonhardt
Date: January 16, 2008

According to David Leonhardt's commentary in the New York Times today, only 19% of respondents to the latest NYT/CBS poll think the country is going in the right direction.

The main problem now is that the good times are no longer good enough to carry the middle class through the bad times. For much of the last 35 years, the incomes of most workers have been growing far more slowly than they once did. In the current expansion, which started in 2001, the median weekly paycheck of workers has actually fallen 1 percent, once inflation is taken into account, according to the Labor Department.

Economists argue about the reasons for the great wage slowdown — technology, globalization, health care costs, the decline of unions, the rise of the new wealthy — but it clearly seems to have made people feel more vulnerable to small economic swings. In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, only 19 percent of those responding said the country was headed in the right direction. That was the lowest percentage since the early 1990s.

(Leonhardt (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/business/16leonhardt.html))

I find it interesting that, while many critics of the war have, over time, speculated that the costs of the Iraqi Bush Adventure would hurt the economy, as an issue our economic woes seem to be trumping the war. None of the candidates seem to be giving a whole lot of attention to whether or not there is a relationship between these issues (http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070929/keefe.gif). And since we're hemorrhaging cash that we don't have in the first place because of the war, it seems reasonable to consider the issues in a common context. Indeed, there is an aspect whereby the economy is independent of the war, but the Democrats don't seem to be seizing directly on the problem. While the Democrats may well be pitching their economic plans (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/opinion/14krugman.html), it doesn't seem they're making the point that we can make some progress simply by not treating the American economy as something that exists for enrichment of administration cronies.

For all the anti-tax groups that remind us how many days a year the average American works to pay their tax burden, and for all the figures asserting how much the national debt costs each American (http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/071001/trever.gif), I wonder how much money, per capita, the administration has poured into the hands of its friends? The number is likely unsettling.
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See Also

Krugman, Paul. "Responding to Recession". NYTimes.com. January 14, 2008. See http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/opinion/14krugman.html

Alpert, Arnie. "War billions could have done so much good". ConcordMonitor.com. November 23, 2008. See http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/OPINION/711230353

Hotakainien, Rob. "Congress raises limit again as U.S. debt nears $10 trillion ". McClatchyDC.com. October 1, 2007. See http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/20068.html

Trever, John. "Baby Bonds". October, 2007. See http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/071001/trever.gif

Keefe, Mike. "Fiscal Irresponsibility". September 30, 2007. See http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070929/keefe.gif

iceaura
01-16-08, 01:55 PM
If that's the case then they DID in fact "load the dice." Practically everyone at any given time is going to think of things that they would like to see made better. That's just basic human nature. The question in the poll has been asked in the same form for years now, and it's the trends that are the story.

I would like to know what the people who said yes, they thought the country was going in the right direction, were thinking. Is there any national trend at all in this country that is a good one, for sure ?

Steady decline in teen pregnancies, maybe. But it accompanies a further decline in teen marriages - good or bad ?

Asguard
01-16-08, 06:16 PM
Challenger78 that was halerious:p cant stop laughing:p

Challenger78
01-16-08, 10:07 PM
Challenger78 that was halerious:p cant stop laughing:p

Yeah, me too.

In response to the topic, the power lies within the people, the US citizenry need to take control of their congressmen (and women).