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View Full Version : 1st muslim in space, & its a woman, say what!!!
vincent28uk 08-31-06, 07:17 AM http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2376073
Well 30 years after they sent monkies into space in russia, now there sending up a muslim woman, i thought men always went first in islam, i bet there is alot of angry muslim men over this reversal in protocol.
Can islam seek out new life & new civilisations & boldly go where no muslim woman has went before?
LARRYTHECABLEGUYJR 08-31-06, 08:29 AM i dident think they were smart enugh to hav or use a spase ship
i dident think they were smart enugh to hav or use a spase ship
The US?
LARRYTHECABLEGUYJR 08-31-06, 08:36 AM The US?
naw the muslum cutrees they are the dummees
vincent28uk 08-31-06, 09:17 AM naw the muslum cutrees they are the dummees
Hi larry the cable guy jr, is there a larry the cable guy senior?
Larry, u sound like a guy with a full set of balls, ready to do some shit kicking here larry?
Are you that sought of guy Larry?
thedevilsreject 08-31-06, 09:18 AM Hi larry the cable guy jr, is there a larry the cable guy senior?
Larry, u sound like a guy with a full set of balls, ready to do some shit kicking here larry?
Are you that sought of guy Larry?
i think he is the kind of guy who is going to get the shit kicked out of him here
thedevilsreject 08-31-06, 09:19 AM i dident think they were smart enugh to hav or use a spase ship
do you get out much outside of redneck country
I think the jokes on you, punkass nigga.
James R 08-31-06, 09:23 PM vincent:
Your disparaging of Muslims has gone far enough. You will be permanently banned if you do it again.
Here is something interesting:
When you're in orbit, which way is Mecca?
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9031-when-youre-in-orbit-which-way-is-mecca.html
Malaysia's National Space Agency is trying to determine how its astronaut candidates will practice Islam in space. Three of its four astronaut candidates are Muslim, and two will be selected for a future Russian space flight.
Once in their orbiting spacecraft, they will circle the Earth once every 90 minutes. Traditionally, Muslims pray five times per day, at times connected to the position of the Sun in the sky. This will make prayer observance a challenge if they accept a "day" as being just 90 minutes long.
Godless 09-09-06, 08:08 AM Hmmmm I would suggest, in light of scientific discovery that the earth is actually round, in orbit in space, and that it actually rotates around the sun, that they give up their ancient mystic garb, or spend praying the whole damn mission!! Which way is Mecca? Down I suppose! Where would north be in space?
Hmmmm I would suggest, in light of scientific discovery that the earth is actually round, in orbit in space, and that it actually rotates around the sun, that they give up their ancient mystic garb, or spend praying the whole damn mission!! Which way is Mecca? Down I suppose! Where would north be in space?
What does the shape of the earth have to do with it?
I think if they just pointed towards the earth, it should be okay.
Godless 09-09-06, 09:17 AM some theist believed the earth was flat.
some theist believed the earth was flat.
There is no such belief in Islam.
The qibla, for any point of reference on the Earth, is the direction of the Kaaba in Mecca. Some Muslims from North America determine this direction using a rhumb line, while most Muslims worldwide use a great circle. In Muslim religious practice, supplicants must face this direction in prayer. Muslims do not worship the Kaaba or its contents; the Kaaba is simply a focal point for prayer.
In ancient times, Muslims traveling abroad used an astrolabe to find the qibla.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Astrolab.JPG/180px-Astrolab.JPG
The astrolabe is a historical astronomical instrument used by classical astronomers and astrologers. It was the chief navigational instrument until the invention of the sextant in the 18th century. Its many uses included locating and predicting the positions of the Sun, Moon, planets and stars; determining local time given local longitude and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation.
Brass astrolabes were developed in much of the Islamic world, chiefly as an aid to navigation and as a way of finding the qibla, the direction of Mecca. The first person credited with building the astrolabe in the Islamic world is reportedly the 8th century Persian mathematician Fazari (Richard Nelson Frye: Golden Age of Persia. p. 163). The mathematical background was established by Al-Battani in his treatise Kitab az-Zij (ca. AD 920), which was translated into Latin by Plato Tiburtinus (De Motu Stellarum). The earliest known example is dated AH 315 (AD 927/8).
In the last 1000 years, several Muslim mathematicians and astronomers, such as al-Biruni, have discussed the correct way of determining the qibla direction from any point on the Earth's surface. All of them agree that at the two moments in each year when the Sun is directly overhead the Kaaba, the direction of shadows in any sunlit place will point directly away from the qibla. This happens on May 28 at 9:18 GMT and on July 16 at 9:27 GMT.
Of course, at any time, only half of the globe is sunlit. Fortunately, there are two moments in each year when the Sun is directly over the antipodes of the Kaaba. At that time, the direction of shadows in any sunlit place will point directly towards the qibla. This happens on November 28 at 21:09 GMT and January 16 at 21:29 GMT.
Because the Earth is almost a sphere, this is almost the same as saying that the qibla from a place is the direction in which a bird would start flying in order to get to the Kaaba by the shortest possible way.
In recent years, some Muslims from North America have argued that the traditional rule is nonsensical, because it leads to apparently absurd results. A Muslim praying from Alaska, they say, should pray almost due North if determining the qibla according to the traditional rule, because a plane going directly from Alaska to Mecca would take that route. Now, anybody who sees a Mercator projection map of the world can see plainly that Mecca is not North of Alaska, but rather to the southeast (or the southwest, depending on the map used). Therefore the "shortest travel distance" rule traditionally used in the old world makes no sense for North Americans.
These Muslims claim that the only correct way of determining the true qibla from a place is drawing a line from that place to Mecca in a Mercator projection map and that the fact that this line is not the shortest possible line has no relevance whatsoever to the matter.
The Muslim communities in North America are currently divided by the dispute: some of them pray to the Northeast according to the traditional doctrine, and some to the Southeast, according to the Mercator doctrine.
This dispute is far from trivial, because the fact that all Muslims pray towards the Kaaba is traditionally considered to be symbol of the unity of all Muslims worldwide under the law of God.
Most qibla calculating programs just use the traditional method and don't even mention the Mercator map method.
Ophiolite 09-09-06, 10:03 AM Well 30 years after they sent monkies into space in russia, now there sending up a muslim woman, i thought men always went first in islam, i bet there is alot of angry muslim men over this reversal in protocol.Vincent, you are a gross, inconsequential retard. Setting aside your psychotic distaste for anything you cannot understand (which provides a lot of scope) you persistently fail to make use of facts. Indeed, with remarkable consistency you pepper each thread you initiate with distortions, lies and laughable errors.
Vincent, you are a ****ing idiot. (And while we are at it, please try to improve your written English. It might make you look slightly less foolish. Say 0.02%)
Just to straighten you out (yet again) the first Muslim in space was Prince Sultan Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, who flew on the space shuttle Discovery in 1985.
vincent28uk 09-09-06, 01:53 PM Vincent, you are a gross, inconsequential retard. Setting aside your psychotic distaste for anything you cannot understand (which provides a lot of scope) you persistently fail to make use of facts. Indeed, with remarkable consistency you pepper each thread you initiate with distortions, lies and laughable errors.
Vincent, you are a ****ing idiot. (And while we are at it, please try to improve your written English. It might make you look slightly less foolish. Say 0.02%)
Just to straighten you out (yet again) the first Muslim in space was Prince Sultan Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, who flew on the space shuttle Discovery in 1985.
I see your posting in the cesspool these days, & thats where you & your posts belong.
It was never meant to be a factual thread, more a sarcastic thread aimed at a naughty religon, i am glad it upset you though.
Dear, dear grammar errors, oh dear i will have to stay back after school eh? & get spanked.
Grow up you prude, what are you the english grammar police?
Get a life you geek, or nerd i hope i spelt everthing correctly, i would hate to upset you. LOL
Ophiolite 09-09-06, 03:02 PM Your attempt at backing out of yet another of your errors fools nobody Vincent.
I would have thought that someone who claims such a high regard for the Queen might have demonstrated more respect for her English. Your hypocrisy is exposed yet again.
vincent28uk 09-09-06, 04:20 PM Your attempt at backing out of yet another of your errors fools nobody Vincent.
I would have thought that someone who claims such a high regard for the Queen might have demonstrated more respect for her English. Your hypocrisy is exposed yet again.
What error it was a hidden joke about monkey's & muslims, & how a monkey beat a muslim into space, James seem to see right through it & put it in the cesspool, nobody else saw through it though including yourself.
James was right, it was a rude thread, but at least he had the brains to figure out the hidden meaning of it, unlike you.
Ophiolite 09-09-06, 08:12 PM Vincent states: "now there sending up a muslim woman, i thought men always went first in islam, "
This is clear cut. The joke you claim to have made does not require that the first Muslim in space be a woman, yet this is what you clearly state. As I have demonstrated, it is 100% wrong. You are 100% wrong. Accept it and move on. (Preferably somewhere very remote.)
ripleofdeath 09-10-06, 01:36 AM Would be nice if the Islamic World Recognise her as a Muslim,
However...
i think we all know the chance of that is extreemly slim.
the Patriarchal over bearance of dogma is soo ingrained in most religions its half the battle to find just one that think men and women are equal.
Muslims have already been in space you dumb fool. The Saudi kings.
Ophiolite 09-10-06, 07:59 AM Do you ever bother to read a thread before posting?
1. Muslims (plural) have not been in space. A Muslim has been in space.
2. No Saudi Kings have been in space. No Saudi King has been in space.
3. This was covered in an earlier post of mine: "Just to straighten you out (yet again) the first Muslim in space was Prince Sultan Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, who flew on the space shuttle Discovery in 1985." Princes and Kings are different.
4. Stop providing Vincent with ammunition.
5. At least you got his character as a dumb fool correct.
Would be nice if the Islamic World Recognise her as a Muslim,
However...
i think we all know the chance of that is extreemly slim.
the Patriarchal over bearance of dogma is soo ingrained in most religions its half the battle to find just one that think men and women are equal.
Has she been de-recognised as a Muslim?
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