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lucifers angel 03-17-08, 01:00 PM I am of to see this tonight and i have to admit i can't wait!!
D'Leh, a mammoth hunter and member of a tribe living in 10,000 B.C., sets out on a quest to rescue his people from extinction. Crossing unknown lands in the course of his journey, D'Leh discovers a lost civilisation whilst in pursuit of a warlord who has kidnapped his beloved. In the journey to save his people, and his love, D'Leh comes face to face with saber-toothed tigers, wooly mammoths and giant ground sloths.
has anyone here seen this? if so what can i expect (WITHOUT spoiling the film for me)
http://www.kinomax.fr/images/Arnaud/1-10/Poster10000.jpg
Syzygys 03-17-08, 01:18 PM People were mostly disappointed, but I think they had too high expectations. Just throw away your brain, don't care for acting and have lots of popcorn. You will be fine...
from engineering perspective, that tool he is holding is as much as useless for killing the beast
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 04:31 AM so i went to see it, and i LOVED it!!! so much so that i wanted to watch it again straight after!
i thought it was well acted well, written, the back grounds were awesome, and it was a good all round film, no historical facts to it though, so if people are thinking its historiacly correct its not!
so if people are thinking its historiacly correct its not!
Ow.. :(
Bummer..
Syzygys 03-19-08, 09:39 AM I think it is good. History was rather boring 10000 BC...
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 09:48 AM Ow.. :(
Bummer..
its worth watching though!
like i said i really enjoyed it!
its worth watching though!
like i said i really enjoyed it!
Draqon's comment on that spear made me realize that I might get irritated watching this.. lol
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 09:52 AM Draqon's comment on that spear made me realize that I might get irritated watching this.. lol
actually dragons comment on the spear was wrong! (sorry dragon) but a spear like that could kill an animal
actually dragons comment on the spear was wrong! (sorry dragon) but a spear like that could kill an animal
It's woefully impractical, and not nearly based on fact..
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 09:55 AM It's woefully impractical, and not nearly based on fact..
he doesnt kill the mamouth with that spear anyways!
he doesnt kill the mamouth with that spear anyways!
Yea, but still.. it's more like one of those fantasy spears than based on reality.
Oh well.. I probably will go to see it anyway.
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 10:06 AM Yea, but still.. it's more like one of those fantasy spears than based on reality.
Oh well.. I probably will go to see it anyway.
yeah go and see it, i promise you that you'll love it! (if you dont you can shout at me)
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 10:07 AM oh and anouther thing that picture wasnt the part where he killed the mamouth anyway!
phlogistician 03-19-08, 10:39 AM It's woefully impractical, and not nearly based on fact..
Dude, 'lost civilisation' is the concept, they may have been able to forge metal before the rest of the planet, and ahem, it's a fantasy film? Suspend disbelief!
Dude, 'lost civilisation' is the concept, they may have been able to forge metal before the rest of the planet, and ahem, it's a fantasy film? Suspend disbelief!
Well I kinda hoped it would be at least somewhat historically accurate.. I would have enjoyed it that much more then.
lucifers angel 03-19-08, 12:49 PM Well I kinda hoped it would be at least somewhat historically accurate.. I would have enjoyed it that much more then.
juts go and watch it and not think to much, its brilliant, best film after lord of the rings (imo)
I think it's based (in part) on the Graham Hancock book "Finger Prints of the Gods", no?
(First post ever on this board by the way...)
I think it's based (in part) on the Graham Hancock book "Finger Prints of the Gods", no?
(First post ever on this board by the way...)
Welcome Wexler ! :)
So what are you saying ? It's based on a religious book ? (I don't know the title)
Well I kinda hoped it would be at least somewhat historically accurate.. I would have enjoyed it that much more then.
the history that you read in science books isn't very accurate. for example, they mention nothing about atlantis, giants and their magic spears/wands/staffs/rods. at least this movie mentions "a continent that sank into the ocean" and has some spears.
juts go and watch it and not think to much, its brilliant, best film after lord of the rings (imo)
weird, i thought lord of the rings was boring.
the history that you read in science books isn't very accurate. for example, they mention nothing about atlantis, giants and their magic spears/wands/staffs/rods. at least this movie mentions "the continent that sank into the ocean" and has some spears.
UHM.. :eek:
"Some say they came from the stars, or from a land that sank beneath the sea."
UHM.. :eek:
you always get so surprised by what i write...
can't wait to see how surprised you'll be when you find out that what i have said is true.
people...there is no Atlantis...its a myth created by Plato and he got the blueprints for his fantasy from Crete downfall
"Some say they came from the stars, or from a land that sank beneath the sea."
you always get so surprised by what i write...
can't wait to see how surprised you'll be when you find out that what i have said is true.
I will be surprised, believe me..
For the record I don't think Atlantis is totally wack, but it has become very unlikely that it existed exactly like it was described.
As for giants.. there are indications of large humans way back.. not convincing evidence though as far as I know.
Magic spears etc.. that IS completely wack.
yeah the magic spears dude, the giant cyclops, and like totally blazin hotties Sirins from the dorm next door...all in the Meth-Mariju land
I will be surprised, believe me..
don't worry, i doubt you'll find out in this life. you don't even believe in eternal life yet.
by the way, it was about 10,000 BC that the last part of atlantis (isle of poseidon) sank.
Magic spears etc.. that IS completely wack.
this is the kind of spears they had: http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/gods/explore/main.html
moses also had one. well, actually it was called the staff of life.
yeah the magic spears dude, the giant cyclops, and like totally blazin hotties Sirins from the dorm next door...all in the Meth-Mariju land
I guess that's where Yorda comes from then.. lol
Or maybe he only visits in the weekends :m: :D
shorty_37 03-19-08, 03:43 PM I want to see this movie. If it isn't historically correct though, nietzche will be
complaining the whole time.
It seems like a fun and beautifully made movie. But if there are gross inaccuracies in it, it will lessen my enjoyment of the movie. I guess Nietzsche agrees.. lol
so i went to see it, and i LOVED it!!! so much so that i wanted to watch it again straight after!
i thought it was well acted well, written, the back grounds were awesome, and it was a good all round film, no historical facts to it though, so if people are thinking its historiacly correct its not!
I enjoyed the film as well. I find it interesting that it portrays the pyramids as being built 10,000 years ago which currently IS a debated subject. Traditional historians date them 5 thou and more recent theories put the great pyramid and the sphynx at 10 thou bc due to erosion etc....
I also found it rather interesting how they suggested that the "pharoh" was a god from the stars. He was also the ONLY white dude in the film. Just something I noticed.
Im suprised there isn't more controversey over this film. As far as the action and the acting went it was ok in my opinion but what really made me enjoy the film is the "suggestive" style of it.
Syzygys 03-19-08, 05:49 PM If anybody wants to watch the movie online, PM me for the address... :)
My favourite film about prehistoric times is La Guerre du feu (1981).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082484/
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1392/guerredufeuph3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
shorty_37 03-19-08, 09:48 PM But if there are gross inaccuracies in it, it will lessen my enjoyment of the movie. I guess Nietzsche agrees.. lol
Yeah you are like 2 peas in a pod! :p
Killjoy 03-20-08, 01:04 AM I want to see this movie. If it isn't historically correct though, nietzche will be
complaining the whole time.
Oh, it's historically correct...
I'm just not sure what planet's history it is they're telling, though...
;)
Ganymede 03-20-08, 01:34 AM so i went to see it, and i LOVED it!!! so much so that i wanted to watch it again straight after!
i thought it was well acted well, written, the back grounds were awesome, and it was a good all round film, no historical facts to it though, so if people are thinking its historiacly correct its not!
Wow, I haven't seen it but everyone I know who have said it was awful. On Rotten Tomatoes it's currently at 10%, one of the lowest scores ever. Your appeal for it is definately in the minority.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10000_bc/
lucifers angel 03-20-08, 04:02 AM Wow, I haven't seen it but everyone I know who have said it was awful. On Rotten Tomatoes it's currently at 10%, one of the lowest scores ever. Your appeal for it is definately in the minority.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10000_bc/
i dont care for film critics, i ahve always made my own mind up about films and music, for example people really knock kevin costner, but i think he is abrilliant actor one of the best in fact!
waterworld was an extremly good film and so was "the postman" both of which i never tire of watching! people should go watch a film and form they're own opinions on it!
Syzygys 03-20-08, 06:21 AM I agree with the above and liked both movies. Will watch 10K BC today....
lucifers angel 03-20-08, 06:49 AM I agree with the above and liked both movies. Will watch 10K BC today....
let me know what you think about it! it'll be interesting to know
phlogistician 03-20-08, 11:53 AM Well I kinda hoped it would be at least somewhat historically accurate.. I would have enjoyed it that much more then.
Ah, try 'Clan of the Cave Bear', might tick more boxes.
Ah, try 'Clan of the Cave Bear', might tick more boxes.
Except for the fact that we know neanderthals were capable of speech and language and they didn't need to use sign language to communicate.
shorty_37 03-22-08, 02:02 PM I am going this afternoon to see this. I will let you know what I think later.
phlogistician 03-22-08, 04:52 PM i , for example people really knock kevin costner, ...waterworld was an extremly good film and ..
Except if the all the ice in the polar ice caps melted the sea would only rise by about 100metres, and the idea of him developing gills was rather well, premature. By several million years.
So, 'Waterworld' was a total suckfest.
I enjoyed it for what it was - a fantasy post apocalyptic film.
There are very few films that have anything to do with real science. Films such as Waterworld are for entertainment, not education.
phlogistician 03-22-08, 05:11 PM I enjoyed it for what it was - a fantasy post apocalyptic film.
There are very few films that have anything to do with real science. Films such as Waterworld are for entertainment, not education.
Hmmm, science fiction requires the audience to suspend disbelief and accept the 'what if' scenario, .. and sometimes the 'what if' is so big (zombies, aliens, whatever) you can't nit pick, and other times, like in 'Waterworld' it's not so big, esp when it's tapping into concerns about climate change, and then, well, it fares badly, because we know the outcome of 'what if', the sea would rise by about 100 metres. Now, if a huge icy comet had hit the Earth, dumping loads of water, causing a greenhouse effect, and starting the poles melting, well, then, the 'what if' would have been taken care of. See, it took me just a minute to come up with a more plausible scenario. Shame Costner was either too stupid, lazy, or contemptuous of his audience to care about the detail.
Perfectly reasonable, but I bet that 98% of the audience didn't know that, and I bet they didn't loose much on sales because maybe less than 2% knew that.
By the way, I too was aware of that fact, but it didn't stop me from enjoying the fantasy.
Killjoy 03-22-08, 09:40 PM weird, i thought lord of the rings was boring.
I'd like to have slapped Peter Jackson for all them damned slo-mo scenes...!
invert_nexus 03-23-08, 07:26 PM Heh.
Historically accurate...
That would be a hell of a feat for a movie set in prehistoric times.
As to the spear, did they use a spear thrower? I agree the one in the poster wouldn't really be effective for killing large animals. I mean, you could, but it wouldn't be very easy.
Killjoy 03-23-08, 08:06 PM As to the spear, did they use a spear thrower? I agree the one in the poster wouldn't really be effective for killing large animals. I mean, you could, but it wouldn't be very easy.
They just used thrown or brandished spear shafts rather than the atlatl type "dart"... there was a scene where a sort of mastodon critter gets killed in quite cliche style by stumbling onto one while charging some hapless "latter-day cave dude" - or whatever they are - in an enraged response to being hunted down to supply the tribe with 'phanto-burgers.
The spear in the poster is a ceremonial thingy awarded to what I guess would be called the "headman" - although the tribe defers to a matriarch figure who seems to be in touch with some sort of "spirit world".
wsionynw 03-24-08, 03:57 AM With a Metacritic score of 34 it puts 10,000 BC firmly in the 'wait until it's out to rent' category.
Emmerich is good at putting huge spectacle up on screen (any idiot with millions to spend on SFX can do that), but his scripts are so poor it makes me wish he would hire a proper writer, the guy is a hack.
I love this quote from the New York Times review... "It explains just how we came to be the tolerant, peace-loving farmers we are today, and why the pyramids were never finished".
LOL
Syzygys 03-24-08, 11:31 AM I am going this afternoon to see this. I will let you know what I think later.
Still waiting...
shorty_37 03-24-08, 03:40 PM Still waiting...
Well.......I liked it. It wasn't great, it didn't do all that much for me. It didn't really tug at my emotions or anything so I will have to say it was JUST OK!
USS Exeter 03-24-08, 03:56 PM I hated that movie, it was just obnoxious and had a really bad lead actor. I'd give a 1.5 out of 4.
shorty_37 03-24-08, 04:04 PM I hated that movie, it was just obnoxious and had a really bad lead actor. I'd give a 1.5 out of 4.
Yeah thats why I say it was Just OK.... The actors didn't really didn't give it much life. The best acting was probably by that Old Mother!
I did get a chuckle out of the guys trying to run with those long fingernails.
One looked like Damon Wayans lol
USS Exeter 03-24-08, 04:09 PM Yeah thats why I say it was Just OK.... The actors didn't really didn't give it much life. The best acting was probably by that Old Mother!
I did get a chuckle out of the guys trying to run with those long fingernails.
One looked like Damon Wayans lol
It sort of reminded me of Conan the Barbarian in a way, but Conan was a LOT better.
nietzschefan 03-24-08, 04:09 PM Yeah thats why I say it was Just OK.... The actors didn't really didn't give it much life. The best acting was probably by that Old Mother!
I did get a chuckle out of the guys trying to run with those long fingernails.
One looked like Damon Wayans lol
No you laughed when I said , "Look those guys are so weak they can hardly hold up their fingernails!"
shorty_37 03-24-08, 04:19 PM No you laughed when I said , "Look those guys are so weak they can hardly hold up their fingernails!"
Yeah when he was scurrying down the stairs. But you and I have a weird sense of humour lol
I also laughed when they pulled the blind guy out of the floor boards.
Reminded me of that mother that was under the bed in that one X files episode.
Syzygys 03-24-08, 05:17 PM I can watch a movie without a storyline or good acting if it has beautiful scenery and sexy actors. prefereably in slow-mo running on the beach...
phlogistician 03-25-08, 08:32 AM from engineering perspective, that tool he is holding is as much as useless for killing the beast
OK, great engineer, please tell us what it's made of, the sharpness of the edge, the rockwell hardness of all parts of the construction, and the centre of mass.
Because you can tell all that from a movie poster, can't you?
Which spear, where?
edit: Ah, I see, funny thing.
phlogistician 03-25-08, 09:18 AM Which spear, where?
edit: Ah, I see, funny thing.
Yeah, funny shape, would be great for slipping between the fangs of a sabre tooth, turning 90 degress to lock it inside the mouth, and then that spike would go up through the soft palate in the roof of it's mouth right up to the brain stem, and give an instant kill.
nietzschefan 03-25-08, 12:31 PM The white spear is only used to fight with a couple times I think, it's "ornamental". That exaborate head was removed for fighting with it. One other time I think i was used on another person.
What I liked about the movie was incorporating for Alternate "theories" about how/when Pyramids where built(including trying to make the Orion/Leo Peak time) and mixing it up with other legends we have(Altantis).
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